Default block size is 512 bytes if the filesystem is NTFS for W2K. If
you happen to use Fat32, it depends on the size of the partition. I
believe for a 40G to 60G FAT32 partition it is 32K. 

--- Todd Carlson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If I remember right the default W2K block size is .5K.
> The max IO size depends on the RAID controllers used. 
> 
> What, you don't like the GUI? ;-)
> 
> 
> Todd Carlson
> Oracle Database Administrator
> Tripos, Inc.
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> -----Original Message-----
> Lisa
> Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 3:31 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> warehouse?
> 
> Can anyone tell me how to figure out the file system block size and
> max
> i/o
> size of a Windows 2000 system?  My sysadmin had no clue.  (Gosh,
> can't
> imagine why, everything's hidden behind that stupid gui)
> 
> Thanks in advance for any replies
> 
> Lisa Koivu
> Oracle Database Baby Oven
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:       Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent:       Friday, April 26, 2002 12:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > Subject:    RE: What block size are you using for your new 9i data
> > warehouse?
> > 
> > All,
> > 
> > Something to keep in mind regardless of whether you
> > are using 9i or not. This issue becomes more relevant
> > in 9i with "multiple block sizes" for different
> > tablespaces. 
> > 
> > You always want to ensure that your DB_BLOCK_SIZE =
> > File System Block Size. This is to avoid wasted I/O
> > and also the case where the "read ahead algorithm" is
> > triggered accidentally, when 1 Database Block results
> > in multiple file system blocks being read from disk.
> > 
> > If your application performs range scans, there is a
> > high possibility that multiple "single database block"
> > read requests to a set of contiguous blocks, may
> > result in the "read ahead algorithm" performing 128K
> > or 256K pre-fetches, even though your application may
> > have not required all 128K or 256K. 
> > 
> > This problem is rampant on ufs file systems where the
> > default block size is 512 bytes, and with a 8K
> > DB_BLOCK_SIZE, it takes 16 file system blocks to store
> > 1 DB block on disk. However, even if you have advanced
> > file systems and have a 1-is-to-2 ratio of DB block
> > is-to FS blocks, you are still in danger of
> > overloading your I/O sub-system, "under the right
> > conditions".
> > 
> > If you are using a volume manager product such as
> > Veritas, and if your version of the volume manager
> > supports "dynamic file system block sizing" based on
> > size of the file system or the files themselves,
> > please pay close attention to that detail and make
> > sure that the file system block size does not exceed
> > the database block size (based on the size of the file
> > system).
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > 
> > Gaja
> > 
> > --- Johnson Poovathummoottil <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > We too have a data warehouse close to 500GB in size.
> > > We upgraded the OS solaris 2.8 and our block size is
> > > 16K. All our data and index tablespaces datafiles
> > > are
> > > spread across 20 files systems whose disks are on
> > > EMC
> > > storage. We too user veritas volume manager. File
> > > systems use four 9 GB disks whaich are raid S and
> > > software stripe uinit size of 256 KB.
> > > 
> > > reasons 
> > >  16K  block size as we have many full table scan ans
> > > sequential reads.
> > >  256 KB stripe unit size because we have set the
> > > db_file_multi_block_read_count to 64(1MB)
> > > 
> > > we are moving to a sun fire 15K machine soon and
> > > then
> > > the we will go to 9i 64 bit.
> > > 
> > > --- "Toepke, Kevin M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > > Cherie:
> > > > 
> > > > If you are using Oracle 9i, you can use mutliple
> > > > block sizes! You still
> > > > create your database with a default block size,
> > > but
> > > > each tablespace (except
> > > > system) can have a block size different from the
> > > > default.
> > > > 
> > > > Valid blocksizes are limited by OS, but they range
> > > > from 2K to 32k. 
> > > > 
> > > > Check out the 9i docs for CREATE TABLESPACE for
> > > more
> > > > info.
> > > > 
> > > > Caver
> > > > 
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 11:24 AM
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > We are building a new version 9.0.1 data warehouse
> > > > on Sun Solaris 2.6
> > > > migrating to Solaris 2.8.  We will be using
> > > striped
> > > > disk that is striped
> > > > using Veritas Volume Manager on EMC disk.
> > > > 
> > > > The datawarehouse will be about 200 Gig.   It will
> > > > be written to throughout
> > > > the day.
> > > > 
> > > > To this point, almost all of our databases have
> > > been
> > > > created with an 8k
> > > > block size.   i'm not sure if that blocksize is
> > > > optimal anymore.   With 9i,
> > > > what block sizes are people using in the field
> > > > nowadays for data
> > > > warehouses?
> > > > 
> > > > Also, if you use striped disk, what stripe size
> > > are
> > > > you using and why?
> > > > 
> > > > Thanks for weighing in on this topic.
> > > > 
> > > > Cherie Machler
> > > > Oracle DBA
> > > > Gelco Information Network
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