Dennis,

It's possible the version you have was corrected. I know that it was the first
printing that had some serious, unintentinal omissions.... I think only in the
first few chapters.

What really hurts the author is when they catch the error, send the correction
in in time to be fixed for the bound printing and it doesn't make it in. I mean,
it's bad enough that I miss things and they get into print (and thank goodness
marlene and I back each other up and find things the other misses). Fortunately,
we've never had the problem where we corrected the errors and they went through
anyway.

We have an excellent project editor, who is as anal as we are about putting out
a clean book.. so I sometimes get several sets of page proofs.  Sigh, and I
wonder why my eyes ache all the time and I can't see anymore!

Rachel



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Thanks Rachel. To choose between speedy publication (copyright 2002) and
waiting another 6 months for an error-free book, I'll choose speedy.
Especially since I've become increasingly desperate for a good RMAN tutorial
over the past months. And after all, this book is designed to teach you to
BACKUP your database. And honestly, I haven't noticed the typos. But I do
appreciate your pointing out the errata site.
Dennis Williams
DBA
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Folks, just a word of warning. Through NO FAULT of the authors, there are a
number of errata in the first edition of the book.

There is a complete errata list on the Osborne site:

http://shop.osborne.com/cgi-bin/oraclepress/errata.html


Page proofing is one of the worst tasks on earth (I know, I'm doing it now
for
the 9i version of DBA 101). We found one chapter that is totally messed up,
we
had to have it resubmitted to be put into proofs. With deadlines and print
schedules what they are (TIGHT), we are lucky that there is time to redo it
before the book comes out in June.

Rachel





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Kitri - Thanks so much for pointing this book out. I have purchased it and
worked through almost all the examples. It is excellent. It was exactly what
I needed. I had found it difficult to get started with RMAN. I had read the
Oracle manual, and taken the Oracle 8i Backup & Recovery class (briefly
covers RMAN, no classroom exercises), and felt I was getting nowhere. I
needed some concrete practice exercises.
           About half of Backup & Recovery 101 is devoted to RMAN. He takes
you
step-by-step through creating a practice database, creating an RMAN catalog
database, configuring RMAN, performing backups, listing RMAN information
from both the RMAN catalog and the target database control file, performing
recoveries using RMAN, creating an RMAN duplicate database, creating an RMAN
standby database, and performing an RMAN tablespace point-in-time recovery.
Each chapter has several relevant exercises to work through.
           He has instructions for both Linux and NT, but he worked the
exercises on Linux, so for NT you will have to adjust more, but there is
probably enough information for you to succeed. I used the Linux
instructions on a Unix system and had no problems, other than the fact that
my practice system is Oracle 8.1.6 and his instructions are for Oracle
8.1.7. But the adjustments were simple and even added to my learning.
           So, if you are considering RMAN, but don't know where to start, I
enthusiastically recommend that you buy Oracle Backup & Recovery 101.
http://shop.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=1G60ZMKA1J&;
mscssid=G50N06L3282V9M7H7E1C63LT2FLNDC69&isbn=0072194618
Dennis Williams
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FWIW --
Oracle Press recently published a "Backup & Recovery 101" book by Kenny
Smith and Stephan Haisley.
I have not yet read it, but it claims to have RMAN coverage.
Since it is part of the '101' series, I presume it covers most of the basic
stuff.
Has anyone purchased it? And read it?
I may check it out at IOUG-A next week :)

Regards,

- Kirti


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I'm contemplating doing an Rman backup and recovery handbook. I'm wondering
what you would like to see in such a book and would you use such a book?
Ideas and comments welcome.

Robert G. Freeman - Oracle8i OCP
Oracle DBA Technical Lead
CSX Midtier Database Administration

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I don't think you can do it.. I mean, you could change it to trunc the
oracle_date field (that eliminates the minutes) and then do a to_date
of :b1 but you will still be operating on the oracle_date field.

Okay, I HATE to suggest this, but since the table is small:

add another field to the table oracle_date_2 as a date field. Update
the table set oracle_date_2=trunc(oracle_date)

add a trigger to fill in oracle_date_2 when you insert a row or update
the oracle_date column


create an index on oracle_date_2 and change the query to use that
column


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>
> I've got the following SQL statement that is running very long on a
> nightly
> data load.   The problem is the TO_CHAR function which is preventing
> me from using the index on this small (20,000-row table).
>
> This is an 8.0.4 database so it is not possible for me to use
> make this a function-based index.
>
> The problem is that the date field has minutes, etc. included and
> those need to be eliminated before the comparison can be made.
> That's why I can't just eliminate the TO_CHAR from both sides
> of the equation.
>
> Isn't there a way that I can pull this function out of the select
> statement
> and do it in a preceeding statement?   Then I could just pass in both
> variables to this statement without the TO_CHAR and use my index.
>
> Is this realistic?  How, exactly could it be done?
>
>
> SELECT DATE_KEY
> FROM DATE_DIM
> WHERE TO_CHAR(ORACLE_DATE,'DD-MON-YYYY') =
> TO_CHAR(:b1,'DD-MON-YYYY')
>
>
> SQL> desc date_dim;
>  Name                            Null?    Type
>  ------------------------------- -------- ----
>  DATE_KEY                        NOT NULL NUMBER(5)
>  ORACLE_DATE                     NOT NULL DATE
>  DATACOM_DATE                             NUMBER(6)
>  DATACOM_REVERSE_DATE                     NUMBER(6)
>  DAY_OF_WEEK                     NOT NULL VARCHAR2(30)
>  DAY_NUMBER_IN_MONTH             NOT NULL NUMBER(3)
>  DAY_NUMBER_OVERALL              NOT NULL NUMBER(9)
>  WEEK_NUMBER_IN_YEAR             NOT NULL NUMBER(3)
>  WEEK_NUMBER_OVERALL             NOT NULL NUMBER(7)
>  MONTH                           NOT NULL VARCHAR2(30)
>  MONTH_NUMBER_OVERALL            NOT NULL NUMBER(7)
>  YEAR                            NOT NULL NUMBER(5)
>  WEEKDAY_IND                     NOT NULL CHAR(1)
>  LAST_DAY_IN_MONTH_IND           NOT NULL CHAR(1)
>  DATA_WAREHOUSE_MOD_DATETIME     NOT NULL DATE
>  DATA_MART_MOD_DATETIME          NOT NULL DATE
>
>
>
> SQL> select oracle_date from date_dim where rownum=1;
>
> ORACLE_DA
> ---------
> 01-JAN-70
>
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Cherie Machler
> Oracle DBA
> Gelco Information Network
>
>
>
>
>
>
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