Just make sure you have a good recovery plan!

Waleed

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Umm.. couple of things to verify...

First, yes, it is me again!
Second, the U-Turn was done on a yellow light (at least that is what I see
that
night!)
Third, that is just a LA street, not a highway! :P
Forth, this is not wild... just LA type of driving!

Winnie
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Is that Winnie Liu??  The LA wild women street driver?  Doing u-turns on a
red light across a 4 lane highway??

Good to see you again.

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Tom,

If you lost an archivelog from the time this datafile was created to present
time. There is no way to simply offline that file and recover that file. It
will
become a classic case of performing incomplete recovery then.

Glad that it works out for you! :D


WInnie
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Thanks, Winnie! It works.

I have a further quetion. If the archivelogs from time when the file was
created to current were lost, do we still have someway to bring the file
online?

Tom

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Umm.. Try this:

1) ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE 'filename' OFFLINE;
2) get rid of the offended datafile from OS
3) ALTER DATABASE CREATE DATAFILE 'filename(same as 1)';
4) RECOVER DATAFILE 'filename';
5) ALTER DATABASE DATAFILE 'filename' ONLINE;

Winnie
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Since there is no data in the file, can we make a datafile to replace it?

Tom Xie

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There is absolutely NO WAY to drop a datafile from a tablespace at all.
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Dear gurus:

I just added a data file to a big tablespace (11GB) that has only one
table. Unfortunately, when it was being backed up, the file head head
corrupted. I don't have any backup of this file. I found that there is
no data in this file yet. So I want to drop the file from the
tablespace. As I know, to drop a data file, I have to export the data,
drop the tablespace and recreate it, and then import data back to
the tablespace. However, since our users can't stop using the table,
I won't have enough down time to do that.

Is there anyway I can quickly drop a data file from a tablespace?

Don't tell me using "alter database datafile '...' offline drop" command.
It won't work.

I am working on Oracle 7.3.4.

Thanks,

Tom Xie
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