I always keep an open mind on these sort of things, I would suggest that you now look for an IT job, where you can get close to Oracle product and hopefully some people like are on this list. You are coming in with no experience it would appear, so you are in the same boat as a grad. You might try for some help desk role, and then find opportunities within that organisation to expand your skills. Developer, DBA whatever will come your way of you just keep at it. You also might like to consider looking at Oracle for phone support roles.
if you are enthusiastic and are adaptable and can express that to a prospective employer you might get into what you want. I think attitude and life experience are your catches for trying to get a role. Broaden your scope for the time being to allow you to get a toe in and then start working on the career path A lot on the list here started out in some sort of entry role, the younger ones via hep desk or PC support roles and older ones via operator or grad programmer roles. Cheers -- ================================================= Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Technical Consultant WWW: http://www.mincom.com APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 Brisbane, Australia Mobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 ================================================= A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) ================================================= Mincom "The People, The Experience, The Vision" ================================================= This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is confidential information. If you have received this transmission in error, please delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this e-mail are the opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by the Mincom Group of companies unless expressly stated otherwise. "Tim Gorman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 23-05-2002 11:43 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> cc: Fax to: Subject: Re: newbie seeks career direction: become a DBA or DEVELOPER? Sherry, Sounds like good advice. There is no way of actually knowing, but I'm sure that the vast majority of DBAs on this list were systems- and applications-developers first. I still consider myself a "C" programmer first and foremost even though nobody cares about "C" anymore, and just about everything I learned that was undocumented was due to an understanding of how "C" programs (like Oracle) work on UNIX (itself written in "C"). I didn't make the switch to DBA until about 8 years ago, after about 10 years as a developer and sysadmin... Of course, if you want to be the life of the party, be a dessert chef. My younger brother starts discussing the chocolate-chipotle-hazelnut-endive tarts he made the other day, and instantly he is the center of attention. Try doing that by discussing session waits...(yawn)... -Tim ----- Original Message ----- To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 6:33 PM > Hi gurus, > I have taken a few Oracle DBA courses at UCLA Extension, passed my first DBA > certification exam, but have not been able to find an entry level position > in this area. (My background is in printing and marketing... big career > move... I've been told my "timing is bad" cause the job market is bad > here). > It was suggested to me, by someone at the LA Oracle User Group meeting, that > I become an Oracle Developer first. Is this the path you recommend? > Although I liked the UCLA classes, I was dissappointed that the Career > Center was off limits to the Extension students. Can you suggest any > better/cheaper classes in Southern California? Any with career placement? > I have acquired many of the books that have been suggested in these postings > and have learned much by being a subscriber to this mailing list. > Thanks in advance! > SL > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: Sherry Lopata > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may > also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing). -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Tim Gorman INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
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