Rich,
  I thank you for the heads up. I have read the install and release
notes for Oracle on OpenVMS and will approach with a lot of caution. I
am very familiar with the Unix world commands and expected actions but,
the OpenVMS commands I have to learn and try to understand before I
attempt the install. We have 2 boxes and 1 disk farm to use. One box
will be the development server and the other server will be production.
I have the advantage of learning with the development install first to
correct any errors in my install.
 Do you have any suggested links or doc's that would be of help or
guidance?
Thanks,
Ron
ROR mª¿ªm

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/23/02 11:33AM >>>
As a side note, please please please become familiar with OpenVMS and
more
importantly Oracle on OpenVMS before tackling this.  At least as far up
as
8i, Oracle has really done themselves a disservice by bastardizing
their own
install on OpenVMS.  There is no OFA on OpenVMS.  It is VERY difficult
to
create and maintain a database without using Oracle's horrid scripts.
Oracle refuses to recognize VMS logicals in the DB (although you can
fool
it).  And do NOT use OpenVMS if you need MTS because it simply does
not
work, even in 9i (see the Midrange forum on MetaClink).

I'm saying this and I'm a huge fan of VMS.  I've been working with it
since
v4.7 and haven't seen an OS that compares.  HOWEVER, for some unknown
reason, companies that produce software on multiple platforms tend to
screw
up their VMS installs.  I have no idea why.  I've been working in Unix
for
four or five years now and just don't understand why people in the
Unix/Winders world make OpenVMS so difficult!  It's EASY!

</soapbox>

VMS (whoops..."OpenVMS") gets a bad rap because of poor marketing, and
a
poor understanding of how VMS works by the people that develop on it
and/or
manage the systems.  Hell, my OpenVMS box here that's running 4 Oracle
8.0.5
instances has had 5 minutes of down time in the past 716 days.  And
that
downtime was due to a network failure.  Five "9"s, baby, and then
some!

Woah...once again, DBA need beer.

Enjoy!  :)

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]              Quad/Tech International, Sussex,
WI USA

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 10:04 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: Rename Column in 9iR2
> 
> 
> Hemant,
>   The price I am referring to is the cost involved with moving from
a
> Dell server on Novell to a Compaq OpenVMS server.  There are a lot
of
> company sided issues that have to be addressed and cases made for
the
> move. In this case the software is not an issues as you stated, the
> issues revolve around the hardware and developmental considerations.
I
> would be more that happy to move to the latest and greatest "solid"
> platform/database combination. It would allow us to create 
> and implement
> browser based applications rather easily and would allow us to use
the
> 9iAS Suite of products.
>  For now all I can do is make requests for item to be included in
the
> budget as we move "forward, backwards, sideways, dance on circles".
> Ron
> ROR mª¿ªm
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