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All,
For what its worth, I believe Rachel has the best approach to the SA / DBA relations dilemma. -).
Another approach, I developed, consists of a matrix that helps delineate SA, DBA, lead and Architect responsibilities.
Please feel free to download it and use at will. The on-line version is located at
http://www.blazingpathways.com/DBAresp_mtrx1_hilevel_ver.PDF (sorry about the lack of a hyperlink)
I first used it at a large Mutual Fund Co in Boston 6 yrs ago and have used it at most if not at all of my client's since with great success.
(Dir's and VP's have tended to implement it since it also tends to make there life easier...-).
The important part is that it facilitates communication and buy-in ...
Please feel free to email me at the link below for the detailed version or if you have any questions.
HTH's,
Thanks,
A. Chris Blais
Principal DBA
www.blazingpathways.com
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
--- Rachel Carmichael wrote:
>see, this is why I always bribe my SAs. chocolate >seems to work well,
>beers after work as necessary :)
--- Joe LaCascio wrote:
>
> For what it's worth I'll add my .02 cents worth to this. I've been
> in IT now for 14 years, started with Informix for my first 3 or 4
> years,
> the rest with Oracle. I've seen my share of duhvelopers but get the
> best giggles from the "fights" that happen between DBA's and System
> Admins. You know the type I'm talking about, the DBA says the
> semaphores
> need to be tweaked and the System Admin knows nothing about Oracle
> and
> doesn't want a lowly DBA to poke around ;-)
>
> In my humble opinion, perfect path to DBA enlightenment:
>
> A couple or three years as a developer,
> a few as a System Admin
> a year as a junior DBA learning the Job
>
> Joe
--- Oracle RDBMS Community Forum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> ORACLE-L Digest Sat, 01 Jun 2002
> Volume 2002, Number 152
>
> In This Issue:
>
> Subject
> Author
> -------------------------------------------
> --------------------------------
> Re: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Yechiel Adar" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: For real Gurus only
> "Sinardy Xing" RE: RE: Advice needed please
> "Stephane Faroult" ORA-600
> =?iso-8859-1?q?Nalla=20Ravi?= Archive log full sam d
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: RMAN error registering database
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: RMAN error registering database
> "MICHAEL.SALE" Re: So, What is a 'Production DBA'? Joe
> LaCascio RE: Archive log full
> Clinton Naude <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: Archive log full "Jack
> van Zanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: Urgent: Prodution database recovery "Jack
> van Zanen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: problem using ROWNUM and ORDER BY claus
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: Archive log full
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" Re:RE: partition tables
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: RMAN error registering database - solve
> "Danny Hughes" RE: ORA-600
> "Michael P Sale" RE: Archive log full
> "Michael P Sale" RE: So, What is a 'Production DBA'?
> Hately Mike Re: So, What is a 'Production DBA'?
> Rachel Carmichael * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the Dalla
> OraStaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re:RE: partition tables
> Rachel Carmichael Re: partition tables
> =?iso-8859-1?q?paquette=20stepha
> RE: partition tables
> DENNIS WILLIAMS RE: So, What is a 'Production DBA'?
> DENNIS WILLIAMS MySQL versus Oracle Joe
> Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D Joe
> Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: partition tables
> Steven Lembark Re:MySQL versus Oracle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re[2]: So, What is a 'Production DBA'?
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: partition tables Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: RE: partition tables
> "Michael P Sale" RE: partition tables "Ron
> Rogers" RE: MySQL versus Oracle
> "Weaver, Walt" RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D
> "Whittle Jerome Contr NCI" Design question.
> "Grabowy, Chris" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> How to grant privileges on all the tables o
> "Mandal, Ashoke" rebuilding indexes
> "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 0881
> Re: MySQL versus Oracle Joe
> Raube <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Peoplesoft/EPM Administrator with Oracle/Un
> OraStaff <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: MySQL versus Oracle Bill
> Pass <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> SQL Question
> "Carle, William T (Bill), ALCAS"
> RE: Design question.
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: How to grant privileges on all the tabl
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: Design question.
> "Whittle Jerome Contr NCI" RE: MySQL versus Oracle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: How to grant privileges on all the tabl Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: MySQL versus Oracle
> "Weaver, Walt" Re: MySQL versus Oracle Alex
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Functions
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: partition tables
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D "Eric
> D. Pierce" CLOBS AND Semicolons
> "MacGregor, Ian A." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D
> "Freeman, Robert " RE: SQL Question Kevin
> Lange <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RE: Design question.
> "Mercadante, Thomas F" RE: MySQL versus Oracle
> "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: Any Equivalent of SAR command in NT/200
> "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D
> Rachel Carmichael Re: Design question.
> Rachel Carmichael Re: rebuilding indexes
> Rachel Carmichael RE: rman duplicate dbid? AND rman catalog c Pat
> Howe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
>
> RE: * Certified Oracle DBAs Needed in the D JoJo
> Al-Zawawi RE: rebuilding indexes
> "Adams, Matthew (GEA, MABG, 0881
> UPGRADE Hamid
> Alavi RE: rebuilding indexes
> "Jeffrey Beckstrom" Re: rebuilding indexes Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: Design question.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: MySQL versus Oracle
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> Rachel Carmichael Re: rebuilding indexes
> Rachel Carmichael RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: UPGRADE
> Rachel Carmichael RE: rebuilding indexes
> Rachel Carmichael RE: rman duplicate dbid? AND rman catalog c
> DENNIS WILLIAMS
>
> RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Freeman, Robert " RE: Oracle apps 10.7 client on Windows 2000
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: rebuilding indexes Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Veritas Quick io Kathy
> Duret <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Re: UPGRADE Jack
> Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Re: MySQL versus Oracle Tim
> Bunce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RE: Veritas Quick io
> Mohammed.Ahsanuddin@VerizonWirel
> RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> Rachel Carmichael Re: rebuilding indexes
> Rachel Carmichael RE: Veritas Quick io "Jay
> Earle (DBA)" RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Freeman, Robert " Re:RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Using RMAN Debi
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> RE: rebuilding indexes "Ron
> Rogers" Stubborn Table
> "kkennedy" RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> Rachel Carmichael RE: RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Weaver, Walt" RE: Jr.DBA, Mid level DBA, Sr.DBA
> "Fink, Dan" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
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