3K of RAM available on the VIC-20. The other 5K were taken up by the operating system. I had a terminal emulator program that allowed me to dial-up at 300 baud and run an IBM mainframe from home. Real bleeding-edge stuff at the time (LOL).
Robertson Lee - lerobe To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <lerobe <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> @acxiom.co.uk cc: > Subject: RE: RE: Difference Between Sent by: root DBMS/RDBMS 06/25/2002 11:13 AM Please respond to ORACLE-L Erm, programmed at college on something called a Sinclair ZX80 Spectrum 1K ram !!!!!! -----Original Message----- Sent: 25 June 2002 15:58 To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Tom, As I recall DB2 on a PC came about way back in the dark days of the 8080 processor and DOS (no version) somewhere around 1980 I believe. I seem to vaguely remember running it on a very old (now a days) predecessor of the laptop. If memory is serving I believe it was called an Osborne? RDB was offered on the IBM mainframe and there was a VAX version that I remember playing with as well. Yeah, it's good to be old and reflect on the twists & turns we went through to make things work. Anyone remember programming with less than 1MB of ram? I remember trying to make things work on 16K. Dick Goulet Human memory is fragile, thank GOD! ____________________Reply Separator____________________ Author: "Mercadante; Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: 6/25/2002 6:08 AM Oh you bunch of young whipper-snappers! A long time ago in a place far-away, we started with simple File Systems. Then came ISAM file systems. These begate DBMS systems. Note there was no 'R' in original DBMS systems. Some of these were simply an extention to ISAM files that allowed (and demanded) a more formalized collection of files. In these files, there were tables and indexes and primary keys. I remember these as "Hierarchical Database Systems". Still no such thing as foreign keys. Finally, I believe, DEC came out with the RBMS system which was (I know I will be corrected on this) one of the first Relational Database Managment Systems to be made available for large systems. (I have no knowledge of IBM products - anybody? When did DB2 make itself known?). On PC's there was also something called RDB I think. See, its good to be old! Tom Mercadante Oracle Certified Professional -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 8:24 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L i give up the R, is that the difference? joe Santosh Varma wrote: > could any body point me the difference(s) between DBMS and RDBMS ?? > because in DBMS also as in RDBMS, we can related two or more > tables..if a column exists in another table for relation ?? > > Thanks and regards, > > Santosh > -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com -- Author: Joe Testa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists -------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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