I have mixed feelings about this - I think this is pervasive within the
high-tech industry, and my gut feeling is that it may help explain why tech
stocks are so low.

Do you think they (the industry leaders) will get the message?

I seriously doubt it.  Right now the focus seems to be on cutting staff and
costs rather than improving products to build loyal customers and increase
revenues.  It's been like this for as long as I can remember.  But the
industry leaders are probably in a bind: Many high quality products
disappeared because a cheaper alternative came on the market.

Part of the problem is that people think short term, if they see a
half-finished product at lower cost that markets itself as being "the
cheaper alternative" for an expensive solution, purchasers tend to pick the
cheaper option if they think they can live with it.  In some cases if a
well-known company says "wait 6 months, we are working on this too and our
product will amaze you," customers actually decide to postpone projects
based on vaporware promises.

Overall costs may actually be higher when cheaper alternatives are selected,
but in many places no one is focused enough, wise enough or around long
enough to do long-term assessments.  In many cases it's because everyone is
too busy to cross the t's and dot all the i's.

It doesn't encourage vendors to build top-quality, long-lasting products.
In my opinion.

I also don't believe there is a real solution to this, most people are happy
with the status quo.

My CDN$0.02.

Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)

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Sent:   Thursday, July 11, 2002 6:15 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:        Re:RE: larry want to take over your e-mai

Hannah,

    Friday is tomorrow, settle down everything will be all right.  It's just
his
Bill complex showing through, you know that MicroSoft mantra, "We will be
everything to everyone."  I'm still waiting for that piece of Windows
software
that insures my coffee cup remains full.  At least the Oracle based one I
developed warns me when it's half full and does not GPF in the process. :-)

Dick Goulet

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Date:       7/11/2002 9:18 AM

THAT DOES IT.  I am starting training on DB2 right away (Yeah - I can
actually
AFFORD to.... no $2000 requirements!!).  I want a DB that KNOWS its a DB and
not
an all-purpose quagmire of inter-related but not really related junk just
because Larry has a Bill complex!

Oracle and CHEAP cannot be used in the same sentence!  Must have been a
misquote...surpised they dont need a 5000 named user license!


Argh...... mental meltdown in process.  One... two.... deep breath.... Is it
Friday yet?

Hannah




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