Not defending Ellison for anything, but it appears
McCain is just another politician who is only interested
in his future and he constantly takes on these "reform
ideas"  and just makes the matter worse.

Everyone should accept the fact that we are in a bear
market and as such all the boats go down.   
Everyone should have been smart enough to sell stocks and
put their money into cash or better yet short stocks
when it was very clear that in the Fall of 2000 after the
initial March 2000 sell off that we were going into
a prolonged Bear market.

Ellison probably took the money and ran when this
became apparent to him and many others.  I know I did.

FWIW. 

Mike    

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Monday, July 15, 2002 5:53 AM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
OT - unix


My understanding is that this was the very first time Ellison had ever sold
Oracle stock, in over 25 years of the company's existence, in 2000, which is
the occasion that McCain (and you) are referring to.  As you might be aware,
there was a far greater "opportunity" for Ellison to "cash out" and leave
Oracle dangling in 1990, when the price dropped from around $20 to $6 almost
overnight after some financial-earning restatements.  On that occasion, he
would certainly have had prior knowledge of what was going to happen, to put
it mildly.  In 2000, any foreknowledge of a long-term downturn (26 months
and counting?) would have been worth far more than $700m, especially to
someone holding several billions in equities...

----- Original Message -----
To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Sunday, July 14, 2002 10:13 PM
unix


> Speaking of herds, or at least what is left behind on
> the ground after they pass:
>
> on "Meet the Press" (TV program), Senator John McCain
> said that Larry Ellison cashed out $700,000,000 of his
> Oracle stocks just before they lost most of their
> value (sarcasm: I'm sure he is planning on plowing it
> back into the company, especially improving quality in
> OWS and Metalink).
>
> regards,
> ep
>
>
> On 14 Jul 2002 at 16:28, Alex wrote:
>
> Date sent:      Sun, 14 Jul 2002 16:28:18 -0800
> the future
> To:             Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>
> > ... As far as DB vendors targeting linux they move in herds and have
> > just finished their linux port from when "linux" was a buzzword.
>
> ..
>
> --
> Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
> --
> Author: Eric D. Pierce
>   INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
> San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
> to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
> the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
> (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
> also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).

-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
-- 
Author: Tim Gorman
  INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).
-- 
Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com
-- 
Author: Johnson, Michael 
  INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Fat City Network Services    -- (858) 538-5051  FAX: (858) 538-5051
San Diego, California        -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists
--------------------------------------------------------------------
To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message
to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in
the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L
(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from).  You may
also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).

Reply via email to