On Tue, Jul 23, 2002 at 10:38:18PM -0800, Gogala, Mladen wrote: > No, it's not certified, but I know the guy who successfully installed > 9.2 on the cooker. Certificates are of limited value in the Linux world.
Production support might be of interest, someday, in the "linux world." I'd hate to explain to customers that I won't be bringing a service up because I decided to run on an unsupported platform. You will need to be getting this in the "linux world." > A product can be certified and yet you may suffer when installing. We're > still > living in the early days of linux. Later on, RH will become another > Microsoft > and we'll have 2 Behemoth companies instead of one. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 11:23 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > On Mon, Jul 22, 2002 at 03:04:03PM -0800, ltiu wrote: > > Mandrake 8.1/8.2 works really well with Oracle 9i Release 2. > > > but is not certified by Oracle. > > > > > > > It's RH compatible, meaning applications are numerous but it does not have > the > > faulty compiler and it's still free unlike Suse. Downloads are easy to get > at as > > well. A lot easier than RH and Suse. > > > > ltiu > > > > Quoting "Gogala, Mladen" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > > > > > Well, I switched from RH 6.2 to SuSE 7.2 (now I'm running 8.0) > > > and here are my impressions: > > > 1) RH was using a proprietary compiler (gcc 2.96) and libraries > > > were incompatible with many independent pieces of software. > > > In particular, Oracle installation was a genuine nightmare. > > > No way I'm going back to RH while they're using that @#$! > > > compiler. > > > 2) Availability of software for SuSE is very poor. Nothing on the > > > rpmfind.net, > > > their website is lousy and they are working very hard to make it even > > > worse. In particular, they used to have a subdirectory called > > > "full-names" > > > where one could find all rpm packages that were officially available > for > > > a > > > given release. That was far too easy, so they removed that directory > and > > > replaced it with the file "INDEX.gz" which you are supposed to > download, > > > > > > "zgrep" for the given package and then download it from it's location. > > > 3) SuSE technical support is bad and less then useless. RH wasn't a > shining > > > example of customer service either, but SuSE really shows you what > the > > > word > > > untermensch really means. > > > 4) SuSE kernel is tainted and is not reporting version the way it's > > > supposed > > > to. > > > That confuses the heck out of the utilities like OSS sound drivers. > When > > > I > > > asked SuSE for help they told me to use ALSA (I've paid for OSS and > with > > > ALSA > > > my mic was dead as dodo). When further pressed, they told me that > kernel > > > relinking > > > is for gurus only and to stay away from that nasty stuff. Eventually, > I > > > downloaded > > > a standard kernel, linked it to fit my HW, installed OSS and it > worked > > > perfectly. > > > SuSE kernel has completely unexpected dependencies and cannot be > > > compiled > > > easily > > > without the help from SuSE. The latter is impossible to get. > > > 5) Software is installed in curious places (xmms is installed under > > > /usr/X11 > > > so that > > > you cannot use plugin rpms) and is always at least a version behind. > > > Ximian GNOME > > > doesn't work quite well and one needs an expert to do so, otherwise, > > > only > > > KDE is > > > left. > > > 6) SuSE has memory test as one of the booting options which was an > > > extremely > > > > > > convenient thing when I was installing additional memory and my DIMM > was > > > bad. > > > 7) The latest RH betas are done with gcc 3.1 which is an official gcc > > > release. > > > As soon as that hits production, I'm switching back to RH, especially > > > now > > > when > > > RH and Oracle Corp. resolved their differences. > > > > > > Mladen Gogala > > > Oracle DBA > > > Phone: (203) 459-6855 > > > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 4:10 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Subject: Re: Oracle on Linux ..... Red Hat vs. Suse > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- Christopher Royce <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> on 07/22/02 08:53:32 -0800 > > > > > > > > > Have been unable to arrive at a definitive position > > > > > > > > There isn't one. There are tradeoffs between the two distro's. > > > > Most of it comes down to which one you are more comfortable > > > > with or which one does more things (including the installation) > > > > that you cannot fathom. > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Steven Lembark 2930 W. Palmer > > > > Workhorse Computing Chicago, IL 60647 > > > > +1 800 762 1582 > > > > -- > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > > -- > > > > Author: > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > Fat City Network Services -- (858) 538-5051 FAX: (858) 538-5051 > > > > San Diego, California -- Public Internet access / Mailing Lists > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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