I think they may have some flawed processes because my wife received one piece of mail from them and we are more than a few years younger than 50. But Rachel, in my mind there's no way you would be even close to qualifying for their benefits.
Stephen >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 07/23/02 11:38AM >>> what a nice way to put that :) maybe they are taking mental age into account and so think I'm about 16? either that or they have you confused with someone else, it was my understanding that they tag you as soon as you hit 50 --- "Toepke, Kevin M" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Hmmm... thats intersting. I'm somewhat your junior and I've been > getting > their propaganda for a couple of years already. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, July 23, 2002 9:34 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > so sweet. so deluded. > > I'm one of the chronological seniors here.. not the oldest I've found > but close > > on the other hand, AARP (American Association of Retired People) > hasn't > started sending me their propaganda yet > > > --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > I didn't know that they gave Managers jobs to people under 20 :-) > > > > Cheers > > > > > > -- > > ================================================= > > Peter McLarty E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Technical Consultant WWW: http://www.mincom.com > > APAC Technical Services Phone: +61 (0)7 3303 3461 > > Brisbane, Australia Mobile: +61 (0)402 094 238 > > Facsimile: +61 (0)7 3303 3048 > > ================================================= > > A great pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do. > > > > - Walter Bagehot (1826-1877 British Economist) > > ================================================= > > Mincom "The People, The Experience, The Vision" > > > > ================================================= > > > > This transmission is for the intended addressee only and is > > confidential > > information. If you have received this transmission in error, > please > > delete it and notify the sender. The contents of this e-mail are > the > > opinion of the writer only and are not endorsed by the Mincom Group > > of > > companies unless expressly stated otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Rachel Carmichael <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > 22-07-2002 07:08 PM > > Please respond to ORACLE-L > > > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > cc: > > Fax to: > > Subject: RE: Rant-Rant > > > > > > Oh I know. I was lucky my last job, we had two full-time DBAs (one > > senior - me, and one junior/mid) and one senior DBA consultant. > > > > I *did* look at my boss last week and said "I no longer work 20 > hour > > days". > > > > Not that I had to. He's good, he's very adamant about the fact that > > if > > there is too much work for one person, we will either hire > > consultants > > or the deadlines will be changed. I'd fall in love with him but > he's > > way too young for me. :) > > > > > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Rachel, > > > > > > you are actually proving my point - that a company does not have > > the > > > luxury > > > (or common sense) to have more than one DBA on staff. > > > > > > Robert's utopia just doesn't fly in todays world. hire one > person > > > and > > > work-em till they drop is the current motto. > > > > > > Tom Mercadante > > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 3:24 PM > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > >The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical > > > >organization > > > >will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they > rarely > > > have > > > > > > > > > > > > excuse me while I wipe the Diet Coke off the screen that I spit > out > > > when I read this. One DBA per project? Oh God that would be a > > luxury > > > beyond belief. > > > > > > As I type this I am the DBA for: > > > > > > a new data mart/data warehouse project > > > a new content management system project > > > a new ecommerce project > > > the existing "universal login" project AND the replacement > project > > > the existing asset management application > > > the existing "community" site (bulletin boards) > > > > > > and anything else that needs a DBA ... and I am it, ain't no > other > > > DBAs > > > around ...... > > > > > > oh yeah, I'm the data architect and data modeler on half these as > > > well... which is REALLY funny as I have almost zero data modeling > > > experience, other than "common sense" > > > > > > > > > --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > OMG! A Socialist in the group! > > > > > > > > "I believe that if we think about these things in a way that we > > ask > > > > > > > ourselves how can I maximize the potential of this person in > our > > > > organization, pay him/her a fair wage for what they can do, and > > > free > > > > up my > > > > time to address the really gnarly stuff we can help our entire > > > > society > > > > better transition to the information era and not marginalize a > > > bunch > > > > of > > > > great people in the process." > > > > > > > > The only problem with your idea that I see is that a typical > > > > organization > > > > will only keep one (or so) DBA on staff per project - they > rarely > > > > have the > > > > cash for multiple people. So a DBA ends up getting called upon > > do > > > > cross the > > > > boundary between very technical stuff as part of the SA group > and > > > > data > > > > access/design with the applications group. Lots of room in > > between > > > > here for > > > > talented people. > > > > > > > > Tom Mercadante > > > > Oracle Certified Professional > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > Sent: Monday, July 22, 2002 1:23 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > > > > > I have been reading this list for the past several months as I > > > > prepare to > > > > move my universe of databases from 7.3 to 9 (probably 9) and I > > have > > > a > > > > rant > > > > of my own. > > > > > > > > It seems that the implicit expectation is that every DBA should > > befhe deadlines will be changed. I'd f > > > or > > > > > > > > should aspire to be a Master Technical DBA. > > > > I have a slightly different take on the situation. It is a > > little > > > > convoluted but I believe that the DBA world needs some > additional > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! 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