If I may add one more...

* upgrades (database, OS, "monitoring tool") are virtually painless.

Except for a few path changes and/or a few query changes for v$ or DBA_ tables.

Good luck upgrading OEM in place on the same machine AND maintinaining all your 
scheduled jobs without interruption.  Which reminds me of another one:

* cost

Jay


>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 08/02/02 12:59PM >>>
On Thursday 01 August 2002 09:45, Fink, Dan wrote:
> Case in point, many databases with
> few dbas. Logging in each morning to each database and checking status and
> metrics is very inefficient. By the time all the databases are checked, the
> day is over. This leaves no time to diagnose and repair problems. Scheduled
> jobs (cron/AT/dbms_job) that query the database/logs and send email is more
> effecient. At this point you have a tool. A monitoring tool, properly
> architected and configured, can assist greatly by allowing the dbas to
> focus on preventing problems and not wasting time determining that there is
> nothing to worry about.
>

Dan,

Advantages of rolling your own:

* they do what you want, and only what you want
* if your needs change, you can modify them
* you don't have to deal with tech support to fix your tools
* you have to learn how stuff works to monitor it

Well, that last bullet point seems to be temporary with me, I 
seem to forget stuff after not being close to it for awhile.

That also serves to point out what a disconnect GUI tools are.

<shameless_self_promotion>

You want some tools?  Reserve your copy of "Perl for Oracle DBA's".
:)

</shameless_self_promotion>

Jared
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