PCM locks on the LMT datafile bitmap header blocks, just like those used for
enqueues.  Difference is, there can be many such blocks and locks, instead
of
just one...

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> But probably there is some other resource that replaces the ST enqueue to
> control concurrency in case of LMT tablespaces and the update of the
bitmap
> headers.
>
> Waleed
>
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>
> On OPS and RAC, the issue is not really the contention for the UET$ and
FET$
> tables themselves.  It is the contention for the "ST" enqueue/lock which
is
> global across all instances.  Only one session on one instance can hold
"ST"
> across all instances in the OPS/RAC database.  Essentially, all dictionary
> space-management operations become single-threaded across all instances,
> which is avoided by using LMT...
>
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>
>
> > Hello,
> >
> > Some may not agree with this sentiment, but unless there is an
overriding
> > reason for your needing to switch from dictionary-based tablespaces to
> > locally-managed, I would leave well enough alone. Our OPS started out
> doing
> > many things wrong, which we straightened out as we got more
sophisticated
> > about middle tiers, various contention issues, set up better granularity
> for
> > locks, etc. One thing that we decided to leave in place was the
> > dictionary-based tablespaces. We decided that it was more effort to
modify
> > the production system than would be gained by a small reduction in
> > contention for $UET and $FET. If we were creating a new OPS, we would
use
> > locally-managed. With respect to the raw device allocation, our UNIX guy
> set
> > up the devices in /dev/vg0x, and the DBAs create links (ln -s) in
> > /u01/oradata/DB_name to those devices. When we drop a tablespace, we
break
> > the links. For a new tablespace, we create new links. This way we have
> > client-specific datafile names in /u01/oradata/DB_name. And we created
the
> > devices based on some growth assumptions, so DBAs do not have to chase
> after
> > UNIXAdmin every month to add more raw devices.
> >
> > Thank you,
> >
> > Paul Sherman
> > DBA    Elcom, Inc.
> > email - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >
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> > Sent: Tuesday, August 13, 2002 10:19 AM
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> >
> >
> >  You do not have to do anything on Unix. Once you drop the Tablespace
the
> > raw file (device) could be used immediately in a new TS.
> >
> > Regards,
> >
> > Waleed
> >
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> > Sent: 8/13/02 9:38 AM
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Wondering if anyone can help me with this question. Basically we have a
> > parallel server setup (solaris 2.8 oracle 8.1.7.3)and so are using raw
> > devices. I am in the process of recreating the tablspaces to be locally
> > managed as opposed to dictionary. My question is this: In a filesystem
> > environment, I would drop the tablespace in oracle and rm the
> > corresponding datafile on the unix level, and then I can go about
> > recreating my tablespace. I know that the OS doesnt really "interact"
> > with the raw devices as such, but, in this situation would I be able to
> > drop the tablespace and recreate it without having to do anything on the
> > unix level? Would that corresponding raw device just be overwritten??
> >
> > Any help would be greatly appreciated
> >
> > Rgds
> >
> > Fawzia
> >
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