As long as you are doing INSERT INTO ... using CTAS it can make use of
NOLOGGING according to Oracle.  I do not know
why the single table does not use it.  Perhaps posting relevant portion of
insert stmt may provide some help
                                                                                       
             
                                                                   The following 
operations can     
                                                                   make use of 
NOLOGGING mode:      
                                                                                       
             
                                                                     -  direct load 
SQL*Loader      
                                                                     -  direct-load 
INSERT          
                                                                     -  CREATE TABLE 
... AS SELECT  
                                                                   (CTAS)              
             
                                                                     -  CREATE INDEX   
             
                                                                     -  ALTER TABLE 
... MOVE        
                                                                   PARTITION           
             
                                                                     -  ALTER TABLE 
... SPLIT       
                                                                   PARTITION           
             
                                                                     -  ALTER INDEX 
... SPLIT       
                                                                   PARTITION           
             
                                                                     -  ALTER INDEX 
... REBUILD     
                                                                     -  ALTER INDEX 
... REBUILD     
                                                                   PARTITION           
             
                                                                     -  INSERT, 
UPDATE, and DELETE  
                                                                   on non-internal 
LOBs in NOCACHE  
                                                                   NOLOGGING           
             
                                                                                       
             
                                                                                       
             
                                                                                       
             





                                                                                       
                            
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Jack,

I have another twist on this situation. Again I'm
loading the tables in nologging mode with all the
indices dropped. Both transactions are insert into
table nologging (select *). The only difference is
that one select is a select from a single table while
the other - is a select from two joined tables.

The first insert (from a single) table produce
archives, while the other (from two tables) - doesn't.

Is there en explanation for that?

thanks

Gene

--- Jack Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> sorry, meant insert as select, not insert as append
> --- Jack Silvey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Gene,
> >
> > This sounds right.
> >
> > Standard insert as append does freelist block
> > checking
> > and generates redo. Parallel DML generates
> minimial
> > redo, just for the new temp segments being
> created,
> > not for the datablock updates. This is one reason
> it
> > is so fast.
> >
> > Index changes are always logged, even in PDML and
> > append modes.
> >



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