We perform a similar process; but for Read-Only databases.  There are some
gotcha's you have to watch out for.  Otherwise it works well.

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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:14 AM
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Nate,

We are doing this as well on Solaris w/ Veritas.  Our series is:

1) Put everything in hot backup mode
2) Split all volumes EXCEPT archive
3) Take everything out of hot backup mode
4) Log switch
5) Split Archive

We use this for cloning on a nightly basis and haven't had any 
issues.  However, when we didn't wait on splitting off the offline 
archives I ran into some problems with everything being where it 
should be for recovery (read I was missing the last redo log).  
The problem with "EMC does it all" is that the datafiles
themselves may be inconsistant at the split, hot backup mode forces
consistancy by freezing the scn's (somebody correct me if I'm way
off, but that's my understanding).  

Try asking this, why are we bothering with Hot Backup mode at all?
After all, the datafile "copies" aren't being made during hot backup
mode, so it's a non-event from Oracle's perspective (and don't let
him get away with just dropping hot altogether!).

HtH, 

John P Weatherman
Database Administrator
Replacements Ltd.



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Sent: Thursday, August 15, 2002 10:59 AM
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Hello,

We are on IBM AIX 4.3.3  with EMC and BCVs. Our Unix admin has setup the
backups for the database in following sequence to do the Hot backup.

1.  Put all tablespaces in the database in Hot backup mode
2. Sleep 5
3. Put all the tablespaces back into normal mode
4. Split the BCV's
5. Mount on another machine and backed up from it.

What I am concerned is with step 4.  Split BCV's should be done at step 2
instead of step 4.
According to our Unix Admin, EMC takes care of consistency and there is no
need for any concern. As per him the split is instant split and EMC
guarantees consistency.

What do you all think.  What is the recommended procedure.

TIA,

Nate




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