Thanks Scott,Mike,Kevin, and Ruth.
I was so shocked to see the "database running" message (when I knew it was
not) that I didn't try the obvious.
shutdown abort did work.
And that caused the semaphore to disappear.

I do have an lkDESI file in $ORACLE_HOME/dbs, but I don't have access to see
it (let alone delete it).
Don't know if this is normally.  (We're pretty Abby here, as Igor would
say).
Thanks for your help!
Barb


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> Barb,
> check for an LK<dbname> file in your $ORACLE_HOME/dbs directory too. If
> it's
> there, delete it. 
> Just another thing to try.
> 
> Regards,
> Mike Hately
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> 
> Oracle 8.0.5
> Solaris 2.6
> HA Cluster 2.1
> 
> This is wacky.
> Any ideas on this one (other than reboot the box)???
> I cannot start up this database (claims it's already running).
> Clearly it is not.  No background processes for this instance.  The only
> process I see even remotely related to this database is the oracledesi
> process.  (I don't know what that process is.)
> 
> I do have a semaphore set for oracle.  Should I remove it? (I normally
> have
> other databases on this box, but I've shut them all down.)
> 
> This database worked fine till a network device was ripped out from under
> it, and the HA stuff kicked in and failed it over.
> 
> Any ideas?  Thanks for any help
> 
> Barb
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