Lotus Notes is good enough and for a time were the number one (and the only 
one). How the hell did they lose market share?

ltiu

On Friday 30 August 2002 08:28, April Wells wrote:
> found some way to fake out Linux to run Lotus Notes in a shell if I am not
> mistaken, too...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Friday, August 30, 2002 9:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
>
> oh no, you can always use Lotus Notes with W2K, XP or NT... we are here
>
> such lovely choices we have
>
> --- "Mercadante, Thomas F" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > My point was that in the corporate world, there is little choice.
> > The only viable software choice is Outlook on WinNT boxes.
> >
> > Tom Mercadante
> > Oracle Certified Professional
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 6:39 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > No, I'm not saying that people using M$ products are doing so because
> > they
> > are stupid or lazy.  Perhaps they are if they refuse to even consider
> > the
> > alternatives.  I don't consider myself stupid or lazy and I'm using
> > M$
> > products both at home and at work.  I don't like them.  I suggest
> > alternatives to damagement every time I have the opportunity.  For my
> > home
> > machines, I have put my foot down -- neither XP nor W2K will ever be
> > used in
> > my home -- they are just too damn invasive.  I'm toying with the idea
> > of
> > getting one of those Lindows machines when I need to replace one of
> > my
> > current machines.  The only reason I don't go with full Linux is that
> > I have
> > not found a good Linux alternative to Quicken (and I'm either too
> > busy or
> > too lazy to write one 8-)
> >
> > To restate what I said before: You always have a choice.  Some people
> > choose
> > to believe that M$ is the ONLY choice.  I don't.
> >
> > Kevin Kennedy
> > First Point Energy Corporation
> >
> > If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 1:39 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> >
> > So basically you're saying that those of us using Microsoft products
> > are
> > doing so because we're stupid or lazy to change?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 2:19 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > You always have a choice.  Sometimes it is difficult to make the
> > right
> > choice.  Consider a high school student who is doing poorly -- they
> > can
> > make the easy choice and drop out or they can make the difficult
> > choice
> > and work harder.  In the case of M$, the easy choice is to accept
> > whatever M$ does and produces.  The difficult choice is to find a
> > viable
> > alternative (and even more difficult is to sell that to management).
> > In
> > the past, M$ bought out or crushed any viable alternative; they have
> > been finding that more difficult lately.
> >
> > Kevin Kennedy
> > First Point Energy Corporation
> >
> > If you take RAC out of Oracle you get OLE!  What can this mean?
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:09 AM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Gee, that's a helpful reply!  As if we have any choice!
> >
> > Tom Mercadante
> > Oracle Certified Professional
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 12:08 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Stop using MS products if you are seriously worried about viruses.
> >
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > >Got trigger happy, so I'm resending.
> > >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >Sent: Thursday, August 29, 2002 10:11 AM
> > >To: DBA List (E-mail); Fat Dba (E-mail)
> > >
> > >
> > >Hi,
> > >
> > >   I recieved an email today as follows:
> > >
> > >Display name of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SUNGARD
> >
> > >Address of sender to me: NAV for Microsoft Exchange-DDS_MAIL
> >
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>@SUNGARD
> >
> > >Recipient of the infected attachment:  Kelly Grigg\Inbox
> > >Subject of the message:  Happy humour Epiphany
> > >One or more attachments were deleted
> > >Attachment URL.pif was Deleted for the following reasons:
> > >Virus W32.Klez.E@mm was found.
> > >
> > >
> > >Here is the repsonse from my guys:
> > >
> > >It's sending out from other domains rather sungard.com, eg.
> >
> > diamonddata.com
> > and lazydba.com to you.  I attached the description from your first
> > email.
> > It is stating that it's being blocked when it's trying to send to
> > you,
> > in
> > which means it's infected on their end and are being scanned/blocked
> > on
> > it's
> > way out from their systems.  Have you contact them about the possible
> > of
> > virus attach on their end. In any case, we were alarmed and run the
> > scan
> > anyway. See what they can find.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
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