Yechiel - Sorry, I was reacting to your analogy of the paper company. I agree that dealers are an entirely different matter.
Dennis Williams DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Monday, September 30, 2002 5:33 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L DENNIS, I think that I did not explain my idea. I do not understand the complain of Thomas. I do not see any harm in a company choosing its dealers based on their commitment to the goals of my company. Microsoft has a right to prefer dealer who embrace the .net, or do you think that anybody have the right to tell a PRIVATE company who to deal with? Yechiel Adar Mehish ----- Original Message ----- To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 5:18 PM > Yechiel - But all things are NEVER equal. So companies end up doing stupid > things because of some larger motive. You end up buying crappy computers > because your boss thinks it will impress the CEO with how you are loyally > supporting someone that somehow supports your company. > Ironic isn't it. When the PC industry began, the computer industry was > firmly dominated by IBM. PC enthusiasts were a bunch of starry-eyed dreamers > that though they could wrestle computing away from the computer priesthood > and bring freedom to everyman. In many ways the Internet has made that dream > come true. But then we have Microsoft talking about creating a new security > system for my computer that on one hand will protect me from bad things and > on the other hand will protect the products of large corporations from me. > In a great number of ways Microsoft resembles the IBM of the past. > <obligatory Oracle reference> > Of course Larry Ellison only wishes he had these type of issues to > deal with. > </obligatory Oracle reference> > > Dennis Williams > DBA > Lifetouch, Inc. > [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 8:43 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > What exactly is your problem? > > Lets say that you are a factory that sells paper. > You need to buy a computer system. > One supplier also sell printers and the other advocate paperless office. > All things being equal, which one will you give your business to?? > > Yechiel Adar > Mehish > > ----- Original Message ----- > To: Multiple <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> recipients of list ORACLE-L > Sent: Thursday, September 26, 2002 1:13 AM > > > This came to our DBA team today. I'd appreciate your thoughts. I'm not > a business > guy, just a plain old Apps DBA, but this really pisses me off. Is it > common practice > by MS? > > It is important from an Architecture point of view that we > understand all the various approaches to "web services" (also known as "grid > computing" -- see my recent report). Microsoft's dot Net initiative is > their approach to this grand overarching software strategy. > > There is a second reason why we might be interested specifically in > dot Net. Subsidiary XYZ earns $xyz a year for us from > > Microsoft by [performing certain services], etc. Microsoft has told > our management that one of their criteria for evaluating their vendors will > be how good of a MS customer is the potential vendor. Specifically, has the > vendor bought in to the dot Net strategy. Now we aren't going to make our > global enterprise solutions strategy decisions based upon that point alone, > but it's not something we are going to ignore either. > > Therefore, I support investigating SQL server, Biz Talk, and dot > Net, but I emphasize the word INVESTIGATING. > > > -- > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > -- > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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