I haven't really been following this thread closely but whenever you do a
level 0 rman backup it will include the controlfile. If you need to recover
to a point in time you can recover using backup controlfile to that point in
time.
HTH,
Ruth
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> Here is an example from 8.1.7.4
>
> oracle@loki:/orabak >rman nocatalog
>
> Recovery Manager: Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production
>
> RMAN> connect target /
>
> RMAN-06005: connected to target database: LIVL
> (DBID=750735866)
> RMAN-06009: using target database controlfile instead
> of recovery catalog
>
> RMAN> run {
> 2> allocate channel c1 type disk;
> 3> set limit channel c1 kbytes=2000000;
> 4> backup full (database format
> '/orabak/tmp/ORA_O_%d_%t_%s_%p_%u');
> 5> sql "ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG CURRENT";
> 6> change archivelog all crosscheck;
> 7> backup (archivelog all format
> '/orabak/tmp/ORA_A_%d_%t_%s_%p_%u');
> 8> }
>
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: allocate
> RMAN-03023: executing command: allocate
> RMAN-08030: allocated channel: c1
> RMAN-08500: channel c1: sid=22 devtype=DISK
>
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: set limit
> RMAN-03023: executing command: set limit
>
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: backup
> RMAN-03023: executing command: backup
> RMAN-08008: channel c1: starting full datafile
> backupset
> RMAN-08502: set_count=1 set_stamp=474386022
> creation_time=04-OCT-02
> RMAN-08010: channel c1: specifying datafile(s) in
> backupset
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00001
> name=/oras1/livl/livlsystem01.dbf
> RMAN-08011: including current controlfile in backupset
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00002
> name=/oras3/livl/livlrbs01.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00008
> name=/ora03/livl/livlretest01.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00003
> name=/ora01/livl/livllivlt01.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00004
> name=/ora02/livl/livllivlt02.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00005
> name=/ora03/livl/livllivlt03.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00006
> name=/orai1/livl/livllivli01.dbf
> RMAN-08522: input datafile fno=00007
> name=/orai2/livl/livllivli02.dbf
> RMAN-08013: channel c1: piece 1 created
> RMAN-08503: piece
> handle=/orabak/tmp/ORA_O_LIVL_474386022_1_1_01e4d3j6
> comment=NONE
> RMAN-08525: backup set complete, elapsed time:
> 00:03:28
>
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: sql
> RMAN-06162: sql statement: ALTER SYSTEM ARCHIVE LOG
> CURRENT
> RMAN-03023: executing command: sql
> RMAN-03022: compiling command: backup
> RMAN-03023: executing command: backup
> RMAN-08009: channel c1: starting archivelog backupset
> RMAN-08502: set_count=2 set_stamp=474386265
> creation_time=04-OCT-02
> RMAN-08014: channel c1: specifying archivelog(s) in
> backup set
> RMAN-08504: input archivelog thread=1 sequence=586
> recid=543 stamp=474386235
> RMAN-08013: channel c1: piece 1 created
> RMAN-08503: piece
> handle=/orabak/tmp/ORA_A_LIVL_474386265_2_1_02e4d3qp
> comment=NONE
> RMAN-08525: backup set complete, elapsed time:
> 00:00:08
> RMAN-08031: released channel: c1
>
> So I've taken a backup...now can I get the control
> file back?
>
> oracle@loki:/orabak/tmp >sqlplus internal
>
> SQL*Plus: Release 8.1.7.0.0 - Production on Fri Oct 4
> 13:58:56 2002
>
> (c) Copyright 2000 Oracle Corporation. All rights
> reserved.
>
>
> Connected to:
> Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release 8.1.7.4.0 -
> Production
> With the Partitioning option
> JServer Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production
>
> sys@livl> DECLARE
> 2 devtype varchar2(256);
> 3 done boolean;
> 4 BEGIN
> 5 devtype :=
> dbms_backup_restore.deviceallocate('',params=>'');
> 6 dbms_backup_restore.restoresetdatafile;
> 7
> dbms_backup_restore.restorecontrolfileto('/tmp/foo.bar');
> 8
>
dbms_backup_restore.restorebackuppiece('/orabak/tmp/ORA_O_LIVL_474386022_1_1
_01e4d3j6',done=>done);
> 9 END;
> 10 /
>
> PL/SQL procedure successfully completed.
>
> sys@livl> exit
> Disconnected from Oracle8i Enterprise Edition Release
> 8.1.7.4.0 - Production
> With the Partitioning option
> JServer Release 8.1.7.4.0 - Production
> you have mail in /var/mail/oracle
> oracle@loki:/orabak/tmp >ls -l /tmp/foo.bar
> -rw-rw---- 1 oracle dba 1908736 Oct 4
> 14:00 /tmp/foo.bar
>
>
> hth
> connor
>
> --- Joe Testa <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Connor, my
> problem(fault) was I didnt make a copy of
> > the control
> > file(and in 8.1.7, you don't get it backed up by
> > default like in 9i,
> > right?).
> >
> > I attempted to bring the db in nomount and restore
> > the control file,
> > rman reply "no controlfile backup found".
> >
> > joe
> >
> >
> > Connor McDonald wrote:
> >
> > >What follows might be all hogwash, you could have
> > >tried this:
> > >
> > >DECLARE
> > > devtype varchar2(256);
> > > done boolean;
> > >BEGIN
> > > devtype := dbms_backup_restore.deviceallocate('',
> > >params=>'');
> > > dbms_backup_restore.restoresetdatafile;
> > >
> >
> >dbms_backup_restore.restorecontrolfileto('/tmp/foo.bar');
> > >
> >
>
>dbms_backup_restore.restorebackuppiece('wherever_my_backups_are',done=>done
);
> > >END;
> > >/
> > >
> > >which drags a copy of the control file that was
> > >included in the backup into /tmp/foo.bar.
> > (Obviously
> > >this has to be run against a different ie "up"
> > >database).
> > >
> > >Then startup nomount the db to be recovered, rman
> > the
> > >'replicate controlfile' and then restore/recover in
> > >the normal way. I think this functionality came in
> > >when they allowed a no-catalog mechanism, so if you
> > >lost everything, you could still make use of a
> > backup.
> > >
> > >hth
> > >connor
> > >
> > > --- JOE TESTA <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Ok
> > so
> > >the qa environment we've been fooling around
> > >
> > >
> > >>with rman for testing backup/recovery.
> > >>
> > >>tonite they say " we want a backup restored from
> > >>rman from 2 incarnations ago(for those of u who
> > dont
> > >>know what an incarnation is, its a new version of
> > >>the database that gets created when you do open
> > >>resetlogs <-- if thats wrong please RMAN gurus
> > >>correct me.
> > >>
> > >>So I get out the book, the docs say "in the event
> > >>you have to do this, which should be rare", you
> > must
> > >>do the
> > >>"reset database to incarnation" command.
> > >>
> > >>seems easy enough, fire up rman, startup
> > nomount,
> > >>reset incarnation and it finds the old backups,
> > and
> > >>starts the restore.
> > >>
> > >>so far so good, but then the catch, being a rman
> > >>newbie(8.1.7), i forgot to make a controlfile
> > >>backup, now if i'd had that, this should have been
> > >>cake,restore the control file in nomount mode,
> > mount
> > >>and restore the datafiles, recover the datafiles
> > and
> > >>open resetlogs, did i forget to say, this is a
> > >>NOARCHIVELOGMODE database.
> > >>
> > >>Well, for whatever reason, the database wouldnt
> > >>open, due to using a newer controlfile.
> > >>
> > >>hmmm, i've done this before, i'll just dump the
> > >>controlfile to trace(yes i did this BEFORE the
> > >>restore, just in case of an actual emergency).
> > >>
> > >>rebuild the control file, try the recover
> > again(did
> > >>i say we're going to a particular SCN based on the
> > >>info from list backup/list incarnation commands),
> > no
> > >>deal, damn database will not open.
> > >>
> > >>regroup, wait a minute, rman aint anything
> > special,
> > >> let's do this:
> > >>
> > >>restore the files from rman backup again.
> > >>exit rman
> > >>sqlplus: recover database until scn #######;
> > >>alter database open resetlogs;
> > >>
> > >>rman: <check> resync catalog;
> > >>
> > >>CHOKE, but i expected that,
> > >>rman: reset database;
> > >>
> > >>full catalog sync AND
> > >>
> > >>we're good to go.
> > >>
> > >>Where did go wrong in using RMAN to do the
> > >>recover/restore ???
> > >>
> > >>joe
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >
> > >=====
> > >Connor McDonald
> > >http://www.oracledba.co.uk
> > >http://www.oaktable.net
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