April - This is what I hear you saying:
  - The database was set up on a file system, and there was room to spare.
  - The file system ran out of space.
  - Don't know what occurred to take up space, there should have been
nothing.
  - The situation is fixed now. HOW??
If the above is true, I think your best bet may be to attempt to reproduce
the problem. But first, carefully measure everything, using something like
Unix's "du -k" command. I think that is the only way you will ever pin it
down. If you are essentially back to operating again, then get a snapshot
now.
  One thought that just occurred to me, is to check the timestamps. If
something changed in size, the timestamp may have changed. I don't believe
the Oracle datafiles are updated in a read-only situation. The control file
probably gets written to frequently.

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Is journaling, but journal isn't in that file system, just on the raw part
of the volume group

April Wells
Oracle DBA 
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Otherwise you will rust out.  _Anonymous


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April:

I'm just guessing here, but is it a journaling file system?
Could the journal be eating up your available space?

HTH,
Mike


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Please forgive the cross postings, but I am hoping that someone in all of
the sets of eyes that see this might have an idea I haven't thought of.
***
Facts
**************************************
aix 4.3.3
oracle 9.0.1.3
new instance, up for 2 weeks
locally managed tablespaces
nothing with autoextend on
file system at 7:01 am was at 98%
12:00 altered index tablespaces to nologging (but this did not change the
file sizes... checked)
12:30 users (it is not a transactional instance... it is strictly reporting)
started getting Ora-01114 errors corresponding (roughly) to when the file
system hit 100%
The only thing in the file system are database files
Nothing "could" have changed at OS level in that time..........to my
knowledge
ITAR open, not much progress (re... "that can't happen")
****************************************************

DID happen... now trying desperately to find out WHY it happened.  The
'problem' effected our biggest client.  I need to find out what happened so
it doesn't happen again...

File system now at 92%, but will need to add dasd in the near future for
growth

one interesting finding found in the digging
9i created files of 2000m are 2097168384 k at os level
8i created and upgraded to 9i files of 2000m are 2097156096 at os level... 

Anybody have any ideas how something that can't happen, did?  Anyone ever
seen this kind of weirdness before?


April Wells
Oracle DBA 
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Otherwise you will rust out.  _Anonymous



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