First a minor correction: sar -u has %wio and not sar -q.

Now, %wio reports the % of the time the CPU was idle while processes, that
otherwise would have run, waited for the outstanding I/O requests to
complete. 

I believe the next few sentences in the book shed more light on %wio and
attempt to simplify it further...

- Kirti   

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Dennis:

   Thanks for answering, what do you mean by, or may
be what do you think Gaja means by:

"He points out that the Solaris sar -q command has a
"%wio" column, a measure of processes that are
currently using the CPU, but are waiting for I/O
requests to be serviced and hence are not making
prudent use of the CPU"

How can the processes be using the CPIU if they are
waiting for some I/O requests?

What I'm trying to say is that that can't consume CPU
cicles if they are waiting (SLEEPING).

Why does sar shows that these CPU cicles are used in
waiting for I/O? Who's using them?


TIA





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Pablo - I posted the following paragraph yesterday:

 3) I looked in Oracle Performance Tuning 101 to see
what Gaja has to say.
He points out that the Solaris sar -q command has a
"%wio" column, a measure
of processes that are currently using the CPU, but are
waiting for I/O
requests to be serviced and hence are not making
prudent use of the CPU. He
further says that %sys and %wio should be less than
10-15% and if it is
consistently higher you need to get to the bottom of
it, and usually it is a
application causing the problem. No details on how to
get to the bottom.

Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Hi list
   Can anyone explain me what exactly does the WAIT
I/O column of the sar -u output mean?

   Does it represent the % of CPU used by the kernel
processes to perform I/O? 

   As far as I know the waiting processes do no wait
actively when they ask for an I/O. right? The OS uses
the SLEEP and WAKEUP primitives.
   So, Which process is using this CPU? (The WAIT
I/O%)

   Or does this WAIT I/O have to be taken as if the
CPU were idle?

Please shed some light on this.
Thanks


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