Forgive me for asking, but if you have enough CPU for all why do you need
control?

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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Thats what we are planning on doing here with our data warehouse.
Unfortunately, your CPU's have to be at 100% for resource manager
to become effective. I'd like to be able to have a bit more control
over sessions than that.

RF

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Rich - Good point! I haven't used Oracle Resource Manager, but in theory it
should be able to do a better job of implementing priorities than the
operating system can.
Dennis Williams
DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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Why seperate instances?  Why not seperate schemas in the same instance?


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Hello,

BACKGROUND:
We've been planning a 300GB datawarehouse architecture for Oracle 9.2 on
Solaris, and have proposed the following:
1) 2 separate instances of Oracle 9.2,
   - Instance A will be the staging instance, all ETL processing will
     take place here
   - Instance B will be the query instance, all reporting activity will
     take place here
2) Once data has been transformed, copy the tablespace metadata from
   Instance A to Instance B using transportable tablespaces feature
3) The physical datafiles will be fast-copied from Instance A to Instance B
   using a vendor feature called Checkpoints (not Oracle's definition of
checkpoints).

Point 3 needs further explanation: both of these instances will be connected
to
Network Attached Storage (NAS) from a vendor named Procom. They have a
feature
called Checkpoints, which quickly creates a read-only copy of a data volume
(I believe this is similar to network appliance's snapshot feature, and EMC
also
has something like this, but the name escapes me). Checkpoints are very fast
to
create, and can result in a read-only copy of 200GB of data in 1 - 2
minutes.
At present, we use them for backup purposes only, and they work well.

Instance A, the staging instance, will use the read-write Oracle datafiles
located on the procom read-write volumes. Instance B, the query instance,
will use datafiles located on a read-only procom volume, which also happens
to
be the checkpoint volume of the read-write volume used by Instance A. The
checkpoint volume will be refreshed daily, from the staging volume, when the
daily ETL stream has completed. The query instance datafiles will be dropped
and re-created daily via the procom checkpoint, and the tablespace metadata
will be plugged in using transportable tablespaces.

We have verified that Oracle works OK using plugged-in read only tablespaces
located on a procom read-only checkpoint volume.

QUESTIONS:

 (too much to hope for)
1) Is anyone else out there using this type of configuration with procom?
   If so, how well does this work? Any comments, problems?

 (more realistic)
2) Is anyone else out there using a similar configuration with a comparable
   vendor feature like checkpoints? Any performance problems? Any comments,
problems?

 (more desperate)
3) Is anyone running a large Oracle data warehouse using primarily read-only

   tablespaces? Any comments, problems? How do you refresh them?

 (last resort)
4) Does anyone care to comment on the above configuration? good idea...bad
idea?

Thanks

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