OK.  For everyone's benefit, this is commonly known as the "Developer's
Paradox".  Essentially, it means that developers write more code so they are
brought back to maintain the stuff.  

Your developers have tragically forced you into this.  Instruct them on
proper database/application/system design and then send them back to
kindergarten.  

PK & FK constraints are STANDARD in all relational databases and indexes are
generally mandatory for PKs and sometimes optional for FKs.  For
performance, make them standard.  The list is endless, however, Tim or Cary
can Really add ammunition.  

OK gentlemen, I have left the door WIDE open.

Thank You

Stephen P. Karniotis
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 -----Original Message-----
Sent:   Wednesday, October 23, 2002 2:39 PM
To:     Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
Subject:        Re: Theory v Practice

  When code is developed to be "database generic", developers will steer
away from code for a specific database.  However, foreign key and check
constraints hardly fall into this category.  I don't use Sqlserver or DB2,
but I would guess that they implement FKs and constraints.  Your developers
are wasting a lot of time coding something that the database will do for
them.  The more logic you can put into the database, the better off you are.
They'll have to code the constraints all over again when they want to
develop a web front-end.  You'll probably see some bad data into your tables
due to coding bugs.  Oracle isn't bug free, but they've got the constraints
nailed down pretty well.

Jay

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 10/23/02 01:45PM >>>
The developers working on our new VB app are also responsible for
setting up the Oracle DB behind it. The app is for an order
entry/despatch/warehouse system with >5 million customers and >1000
orders per day. We have nearly 400 tables. They are not planning on
using primary keys/secondary keys, as they say they will handle all the
constraints via VB.
I only have a theoretical knowledge of database design, which says this
is very wrong. Is the Oracle system being used as anything more than an
expensive file system? In real world scenarios, is this a common
practice?

Regards

Craig Healey




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