Yes, I do.  This ploy worked on some of the large corporations in the U.S.
And I happen to know this worked on at least one large financial
institution.

RWB





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I have heard rumors that Oracle has tried out this interpretation on some
clients. I have also heard some people were a bit outraged. Have you known
anyone that paid up based on this interpretation?



Dennis Williams
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Oracle now say that if the database interacts with any other system that
has
users these must be counted too !

e.g. You have a database that runs a warehouse management system. If this
receives orders from another ERP type system via
an interface and this system can take internet orders, even if it has its
own database license, then either
you count all customers or use processor licensing.





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Sean - I think you are recalling the old "Concurrent Users".

A named user is defined as follows:
Named User: is defined as an individual authorized by you to use the
programs which are installed on a single server or multiple servers,
regardless of whether the individual is actively using the programs at any
given time. A non human operated device will be counted as a Named User in
addition to all individuals authorized to use the programs, if such devices
can access the programs. If multiplexing hardware or software (e.g., a TAP
monitor or a Web server product) is used, this number must be measured at
the multiplexing front end.

I feel a good measure today is that anyone who can even contemplate
interacting with your database qualifies as a "named user".


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Not a particularily technical query but a rather practical one.  With a
named user licence is one user taken per each username returned from a
select username from dba_users?

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