"Some guy in the Netherlands" uh huh....
--- Anjo Kolk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > No I have given them for Oracle in Holland, Belgium, Norway, > Singapore > and Malaysia. > > Anjo. > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 12:58 PM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Are these Internals classes only available in the US? > > -----Original Message----- > Carmichael > Sent: 29 October 2002 11:04 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course > > Tom, > > I didn't mean to imply that you were going into damagement! > > I was lucky enough to have someone point me to "seminars" and figured > I'd share my luck. > > I think the reason they don't publicize it is that he is the only one > teaching it and it's full without publicizing. Can you imagine if > they > made it generally available? He'd have time to do nothing else! > > Rachel > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rachel, I'm not bucking for a management slot by being clueless > about > > the > > details. Really I'm not. I registered online for the internals > > course by > > searching for it. I just kind of assumed from what Scott said that > I > > just > > managed to luck out when I searched for the course and found it. I > > mistakenly assumed the course was quietly being removed from online > > registration after hearing Scott's statements about hiding and not > > publicizing the course. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 8:58 PM > > > > > > > I registered for it online, at education.oracle.com > > > > > > you have to search on seminars, not classes. It's difficult to > > find, > > > but it IS there > > > > > > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > RE: Oracle Internals courseThat rumor's been going on for > > versions > > > > now. As has been Scott's desire to offer a two week internals > > > > course. Course participants would sign all sorts of > > non-disclosure > > > > forms then get a scaled down version of what's taught to > Customer > > > > Support. Wait a minute! Customer Support takes these courses? > > Surely > > > > not all the Silver Support people I've called. A difficulty > with > > a > > > > two week course is that the very DBAs most likely to benefit > from > > the > > > > course are the ones least likely to be let free for two weeks. > > > > > > > > The internals course is slated to be yanked every time a new > > version > > > > of Oracle comes out. Why teach internals when there are no > > > > initialization parameters and the database maintains and tunes > > > > itself? There's been an economic downturn and Oracle DBAs have > > lost > > > > their jobs. But anybody know an Oracle DBA who lost his job > > because > > > > a later version doesn't require a DBA? Oracle on CDs 1,2 and > 3, > > huh? > > > > I think if I dig enough I can find that old version of Oracle > I > > had > > > > that came on a single diskette. > > > > > > > > Scott says the internals course is purposely hidden. You have > to > > > > call Oracle directly and ask for it. A number of people > > registered > > > > for the course from the paper or online catalogs, showed up > then > > > > complained that they weren't about to get anything out of the > > > > course.. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > From: Nick Wagner > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 3:23 PM > > > > Subject: RE: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > > > > > > > rumor has it that this course is not going to be > > offered/modified > > > > for the 9.2 release of Oracle. Can anyone confirm or deny it? > > > > > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > p.s. Had a close friend take this class, and they also came > > back > > > > extremely pleased with it. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Rachel Carmichael [mailto:wisernet100@;yahoo.com] > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:19 PM > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > Subject: Re: Oracle Internals course > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scott is the "instructors's instructor" > > > > > > > > he learns the new features, then teaches them to the > > instructors so > > > > > > > > they can teach them to you > > > > > > > > I had the pleasure of taking those classes with Scott a few > > years > > > > ago > > > > as well. He's a great teacher. > > > > > > > > If he is ever presenting at any conference you go to, GO SEE > > HIM > > > > > > > > --- Tom Pall <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > > I took that very course with Scott a few years ago. Yup, > > Scott > > > > flies > > > > > through the Internals and Dump/Traces courses with lots of > > extra > > > > > material to > > > > > spare. It's really refreshing to hear him tell the class > how > > the > > > > > > > > > developers > > > > > documented something then tell how it's actually built. He > > keeps > > > > a > > > > > database > > > > > running in his notebook to prove what he says. Scott's one > > great > > > > > > > > > teacher. > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, October 28, 2002 12:53 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I just wanted to say... > > > > > > > > > > If you have a chance to take the Oracle Internals course > with > > > > Scott > > > > > Gossett > > > > > at Oracle, I highly recommend it. > > > > > > > > > > I wish I knew half of what he knows! > > > > > > > > > > The course isn't included in the OCP tracks, I think it > > should be > > > > > > > > > given a > > > > > higher profile though. > > > > > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > Patrice Boivin > > > > > Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA) > > > > > > > > > > Systems Admin & Operations | Admin. et Exploit. des > systèmes > > > > > Technology Services | Services technologiques > > > > > Informatics Branch | Direction de l'informatique > > > > > Maritimes Region, DFO | Région des Maritimes, MPO > > > > > > > > > > E-Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > > > > -- > > > > > Author: Boivin, Patrice J > > > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > === message truncated === __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? 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