Oops, I meant so you could MARKET it later.

Dennis Williams
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Lifetouch, Inc.
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Jared - I think I steered you wrong. Apparently Actuate is even costlier.
Gee, maybe you could whip something up in Perl. Do it on your own time so
you can marked it later.

Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP
Lifetouch, Inc.
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For those that may be curious, I found the BMC software
that Yechial referred to.  Price for 250 users: $60k US.

Plus consulting $$$. 

Fairly expensive, I would say.

Jared





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Hello Jared

BMC has a product that allow you to send reports to disk and then use web
access to browse the reports. I am sure that there are other tools that 
does
the same.

(disclaimer - this from a talk I had with one of our guys, no first hand
knowledge).

Yechiel Adar
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>
>
> On Thursday 31 October 2002 14:45, Fink, Dan wrote:
> > Jared,
> > To state the obvious...'Throw away solutions some how never get
> > thrown away'.
>
> Yeah, well, I had thought of this.  I'm stuck with this strategy 
however.
>
> > Okay, now on to the real task at hand. A couple of ideas
> > Dump the reports out to html format (sql*plus can do this) and the
> > users can hit an url for the history. Using a little code to insure 
that
> > the front page shows the current report, with a secondary page with
links
> > to other pages/reports.
> > Dump the compiled data to flat files on the network and let another
> > app (access/excel) get the data, format, graph, display it, etc.
> > Oh, (in deference), write a series of perl scripts...
>
> Sqlplus won't work.  This is SAP.  If you're not familiar with SAP,
sqlplus
> is not an adequate reporting tool.  Though all SAP data is stored in
tables
> in the database, there are some that are stored as either 'CLUSTER' or
> 'POOL' tables, SAP terminology, not Oracle's.  The data is not readable
> from sqlplus.
>
> Whatever the solution, I want to avoid coding an infrastructure. I'm
looking
> for a solution that is fairly simple to build.  It may or may not get
thrown
> out later, but there will eventually be a DW to supplant it.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Jared
>
> > Dan Fink
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > Sent: Thursday, October 31, 2002 2:49 PM
> > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> >
> >
> > Dear List,
> >
> > First, a little background.  A coworker and I have been charged with
> > developing and implementing a 'short term' 'Reporting Solution'.
> >
> > Glossary:
> >
> > short term:  low cast, fast to implement, throw it away late next year
> >
> > Reporting Solution:  Some method to make it easy for users to
> > see oft run reports without re-running them on the production SAP
> > ( and other apps also ) systems.
> >
> > The goal of the 'Reporting Solution' is perceived performance.
> > Only 1 or 2 of these reports have any detrimental performance
> > impact on the servers.  The goal is to allow users to view current
> > and historic reports ( up to 90 days ) without being required to
> > wait on reports to run on the application/database servers.
> >
> > This is partly political, partly user friendly.
> >
> > The political part is that we want to do *something* for users so
> > that it looks like we're taking their requirements to heart, even
> > though we don't have the resources to do much right now.
> >
> > The user friendly part is that we want to do *something* for users so
> > that we can make their jobs a little easier, even  though we don't
> > have the resources to do much right now.
> >
> > One idea we have is to have an ABAPer ( SAP programmer ) setup
> > the most requested reports to run in batch mode with a specified range
> > of dates and whatever parameters are needed.
> >
> > This would be done periodically, the report output put on a network
> > filer or database or something accessible via browser ( no shared
> > drive type solution, access is to iffy ), and a web page that would
allow
> > simple navigation to reports by Category/Date.
> >
> > Click on the report, view your data.
> >
> > One thing that this is *not*, is a data warehouse and/or data marts.
> >
> > This is to be a low cost solution.  Some software OK, a server is Ok
> > if necessary.  The key is fairly easy and quick implementation.
> >
> > I'm open to any and all ideas you may have for this, experiences doing
> > similar projects, etc.  If it uses Oracle software, that's cool, if 
not,
> > that's
> > cool too.  Oracle is involved in any solution: at the very least, 
that's
> > where
> > all our source data is stored.
> >
> > Thanks for reading this long winded message.
> >
> > Jared
>
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