Paula - You're losing me on the connection between SQL and GUI. I can see a connection between command-line DBA actions and GUI DBA tools. And some GUI report writing tools create SQL for you, but usually we DBAs are called when it creates bad SQL code and we must straighten it out. So have you passed all 5 OCP modules?
Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:29 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I took the SQL exam first and had no problems although I have heard others have. I think it has to do with how I learned - I forced myself to use SQL before getting hooked into a GUI tool of any kind. In the long-run that is a good approach as you will always have that but might not always have the GUI. -----Original Message----- <mailto:DWILLIAMS@;LIFETOUCH.COM> ] Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 12:04 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Eva - Everything I've heard says that all the exam questions come out of the Oracle University class Student Guides. To put it bluntly, your goal is to pass the exam. You could study the Oracle manuals, but there is a lot of material to cover and what strikes you as important might not be covered on the exam, and vice-versa. Essentially you are getting two levels of filtering. Somebody read the manuals and used that to prepare student guides, then a group of Oracle instructors read the student guide and prepared questions. I think that most of the exam guides were prepared from the Oracle Student Guides and the author has at least taken the exam, so they have a general idea of how the test is approached. Everyone has their favorite exam preparation book and I consider this a worthwhile investment, I bought Couchman - http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6WIANMIL0 <http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6WIANMIL 0> H < http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6WIANMIL <http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=6WIANMIL > 0H&sourceid=00400731866779927243&bfdate=11%2D05%2D2002+10%3A16%3A17&isbn=007 2133414> &sourceid=00400731866779927243&bfdate=11%2D05%2D2002+10%3A16%3A17&isbn=00721 33414 Two issues: Which exam track are you planning to take? 9i? 8i? The advice I received is "don't take the SQL exam as your first exam". Take the DBA exam first. The SQL exam is reported to be quite hard because it covers all the odd SQL functions and can really catch you unawares. As a practicing DBA you should find the DBA exam pretty easy. I didn't personally take that path for my own reasons, but I still consider it good advice. Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Tuesday, November 05, 2002 6:09 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Hello Everyone, 1. I have now made the humungous decision to start studying and to write the OCP exams. 2. Do I study out of the Oracle Manuals? 3. I do have the Sybex Study Guides, would studying these be all that is needed? 4. Or do the questions come out of the Course material ( Which I have not attended ). 5. I do have some of the Oreilly "Insect" Books - would these be any help? Any views, opinions etc appreciated. Regards Denham Eva Oracle DBA "UNIX is basically a simple operating system, but you have to be a genius to understand the simplicity." Dennis Ritchie. _____ DISCLAIMER This message is for the named person's use only. It may contain confidential, proprietary or legally privileged information. 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