Scott,

You're walking where angels fear to tread.

Watch it.

Jared





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Burnt mud?  Isn't that all scotch?

Scott Shafer
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> Sherry Finish?  I thought you liked scotch that tasted like burnt mud?
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> That reminds me:
> 
> Mark, your annual stipend is due.
> 
> Make it a case of Glenmorangie this time, Sherry finish.  :)
> 
> Jared
> 
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> 
> 
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> Hey Dennis,
> Mark Leith is the only person on this list allowed to mention 3rd party
> products.
> I am sure he bought the franchise from Jared :)
> 
> John
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> Prem - You are receiving some excellent advice from Tom and Tim. I would
> mention two items in addition:
>   - If you ever hope to re-use the data you archive off-line, you must 
> also
> archive all the related tables, because after all, this is a RELATIONAL
> database.
>   - PrincetonSoftech has a product Active Archiving that looks pretty 
good
> from the demos I've seen. I haven't used it myself.
> 
> 
> 
> Dennis Williams 
> DBA, 40%OCP 
> Lifetouch, Inc. 
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> Prem,
> 
> I would re-visit the requirement.  Why do you feel the need to delete 
the
> data from the database?  What is the purpose for this type of 
requirement?
> It would be far easier to modify the requirement than to do what you are
> thinking of doing.
> 
> Adding columns to database tables indicating that a record has passed 
it's
> retention policy and thus, is not included in queries, would be a much
> easier solution.
> 
> Or, simply moving these records to historical tables in the database - 
and
> NOT deleting them from the system - is a much better solution.  The data 

> is
> always accessible and not available in the current tables.  And you will 

> not
> be playing the "get the data from tape and reload it" game with all of 
> it's
> problems (writing an offload program, table structure changes & offload
> program versions).
> 
> Try and keep this as simple as possible.
> 
> Hope this helps
> 
> Tom Mercadante 
> Oracle Certified Professional 
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> Dear List, 
> 
> I need some inputs from you all regarding purging data from the 
database. 
> 
> This is the requirement 
> 
> 
> We define a retention period for all the data in the system. 
> When the retention period is reached,  the data should be deleted, but 
> then
> at a later time, some user might request for this purged data. So it 
must 
> be
> possible to retrieve this data. 
> 
> This is the strategy we have designed for this. 
> 
> When the retention period is reached, move the data from the main 
database
> to an offline database. Then delete the data from the main database. 
> 
> In the offline database, we cannot again keep it from long, so it has to
> moved to tapes. Now my question, how can we move this data to tapes and 
at
> the same time retrieve data from the tapes based on dates. 
> i.e, the user will ask for the data on a particular date, so it must be
> possible to retrieve data from the tapes based on a date and load it to 
> the
> database tables. 
> 
> Regards 
> Prem 
> 
> 
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