In the "for what it is worth" department:

In addition to Dick's comments (with which I agree)

Be careful how you approach this situation.  If you wish to succeed, it
may be key to let the powers that be know that you are not proposing
bleeding edge solutions, and that looking down the road towards total
cost of ownership and supporting the application, it may behoove them to
consider something more mainstream.

Nobody ever truly wins a discussion by starting an argument with someone
in a higher level of authority.

Perhaps you should inquire about the "why" of the decisions so you
understand the key issues to address to propose a better one.

Good Luck,

Yep, even technical decisions require us to exercise high levels of
diplomacy :-)

-Ron-

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Babette,

    This is one of those "from this old turd to that old fart" messages.
I've been around Oracle since 1985 & I love it too.  But it sounds like
the director has a serious problem with new technology.  Doing anything
in COBOL today?  Even PeopleSoft is busy re-writing their code in C++.
Seesh his age is seriously showing.  Oracle already has an adapter to MQ
series, why re-invent the wheel when someone else has already done a
better job of it.  Then code the business logic in PL/SQL so that not
only can this application use it, but any other that comes around.  I
believe it's known as code reuse.  Another old term.  You might start
off by handing him a copy of Oracle 8i new features & functions.  BTW:
add a copy of the 9i edition as well.

Dick Goulet

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Author: "Babette Turner-Underwood" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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I just found out today that we have a major development initiative that
is starting and they are planning on using Pro*Cobol to develop the
application. (my head is still shaking in disbelief!!!)

So we will have a Java front-end, invoking MQ series that will go across
to the mainframe for MQ series to invoke Pro*Cobol programs that will
then do the processing (accessing data and doing calculations) and then
return data.

If anyone has been in this or a similar situation, please help. I need
some really good arguments as to why we should put the business logic
into PL/SQL instead of Pro*Cobol.

I understand the reason we are using Oracle is that the director has 15
years experience with it and loves it.  Aaargh!!!

thanks
Babette

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