There is an excellent tool called "vi". > -----Original Message----- > From: John Dunn [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 4:59 AM > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > Subject: RE: AIX vs Solaris > > > the Solaris Admintool seems to have very little > functionality(create users > and not much else). With SMIT on AIX you can do much, much > more. Does anyone > use any other party tools for easier Solaris syatems admin? > > John > > > <<In comparison, I've always been > less than impressed with Sun's Admintool, though I've heard it's > somewhat improved in Sol9.>> > > -----Original Message----- > Sent: 17 November 2002 14:19 > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > IBM has some very exciting technology in the pSeries line. Their > Regatta line (p690) are incredible Unix-based mainframe class systems; > similar to Sun's Sunfire and HP's Superdome lines. The really cool > thing is that you can get those same chips in a 4-CPU configuration 4U > rackmount box for like $50K. Those make VERY nice > development systems. > :-) > > As far as which system to purchase, that depends a lot on how much > management wants to invest in re-training. From a Unix standpoint AIX > isn't very hard to learn -- it's sort of a mix-match of SYSV and BSD > compared with Solaris and HP-UX's SYSV roots (SunOS was > BSD-based until > Solaris 2.x). > > From the standpoint of configuring physical hardware, adding > disk to the > system, doing LVM striping, etc. they've all got similar > commands (e.g. > lspv on AIX vs pvdisplay on HP-UX; not sure what Sun's using > these days, > and it probably depends on whether or not you're using Veritas, etc). > > The point is that it's just a syntactical re-learning, but > the concepts > are all the same. HP and IBM both have fairly decent > sysadmin assistant > tools (AIX uses SMIT and HP uses SAM). In comparison, I've > always been > less than impressed with Sun's Admintool, though I've heard it's > somewhat improved in Sol9. > > With regard to price performance, the three vendors seem to leap frog > quite a bit, with no clear "leader of the pack" over a long period of > time. I think it's a safe bet to go with any of them, although it > remains to be seen how effective HP's new Itanium strategy will be... > the PA-RISC chips were a very nice line, as have been the > Sparc/UltraSparc lines, and the IBM Power-based CPU's. I'm curious to > see if Itanium will be able to provide the raw horsepower to keep up > with Sun and IBM over the long term, but I don't think they'd bet the > farm if they didn't think they could do it.... > > Rich Holland > Guidance Technologies, Inc. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] On Behalf Of DENNIS > > WILLIAMS > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 4:28 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > Subject: RE: AIX vs Solaris > > > > Bill - You may want to check with your system administrators. My > > understanding is that the two systems are pretty much identical from > the > > user standpoint, but that AIX is quite a bit difference from the sys > > admin's > > point of view. It may make a difference, depending on your > sys admin's > > background, but maybe not enough to change the purchase decision. > > Another thing to consider: what is the timeframe of your > purchase. > We > > have gotten very good use from our Dec/Compaq/HP Alphas, but decided > not > > to > > continue investing in the line. We looked around and > Solaris seems to > have > > the strongest path to the future. Most Unix vendors, like > HP, seem to > be > > planning to switch to the Intel Itanium, the chip without a proven > > "today", > > let alone tomorrow. I don't know what IBM plans for the future in > terms of > > chips. If this is just a single system purchase, then it probably > doesn't > > matter so much. > > > > Dennis Williams > > DBA, 40%OCP > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, November 13, 2002 12:49 PM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > Hello, > > > > What are the major differences between AIX and Solaris regarding > > operating system features? > > > > We are planning a new machine purchase; currently we are on a Sun > machine > > running Solaris, but IBM is making a strong proposal to management > > (meaning significantly less cost), and we are wondering what would > need to > > be > > changed. We use korn shell scripts extensively, and features such as > > crontab, background processing, the sqlplus <<EOF ... EOF construct > (not > > sure what this is called). I'm fairly sure these are > standard in most > > flavors of unix, but I have never had contact with AIX. Does anyone > know > > what features differ between the two OS's? > > > > If we went with Solaris, we would go with Solaris 9 running > Oracle 9.2 > > on a Sun 4800. > > > > Thanks for any responders. > > > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.com > > -- > > Author: > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web > hosting services > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L > > (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). 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