Okay, it's early here, I'm fuzzy.

I think I meant the same thing (I'd had one of those "user calls" in
the middle of the night)

what I think I meant to say was that any operation that would end up
adding blocks above the HWM if it COMPLETED would do it by creating
TEMP segments that are converted to data blocks on commit of the
operation.

basically, temp segments are created for any operation that does not
touch existing blocks

or am I still fuzzy?


--- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> No, only the original SQL*Loader DIRECT=TRUE does that (adding blocks
> above
> HWM), which was introduced with v7.0.x...
> 
> Since then, all direct-path (a.k.a. append) operations (including
> SQL*Loader
> DIRECT=TRUE PARALLEL=TRUE, parallel CREATE INDEX, parallel CREATE
> TABLE AS
> SELECT, and INSERT /*+ APPEND PARALLEL */, etc) have created
> temporary
> segments for each parallel execution "slave" process which will be
> merged
> into eventual segment.  As Anjo commented, it makes for really fast
> and easy
> rollback;  just let SMON clean up the temporary segments...
> 
> ...don't know if it's ever really been documented;  I did include
> this
> description in our books on data warehousing in 1997 and 1999...
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> 
> 
> > Tim -- that adds new blocks above the HWM?
> >
> > I wonder if any command that adds new blocks (vs inserting rows
> into
> > existing ones) automatically creates the new blocks as TEMP
> segments.
> > Logically it makes sense but I wonder if it's documented anywhere.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Tim Gorman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > ...as does INSERT /*+ APPEND PARALLEL */...
> > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > >   From: Fink, Dan
> > >   To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >   Sent: Tuesday, November 19, 2002 1:15 PM
> > >   Subject: TEMP segments
> > >
> > >
> > >   I just found a new command that creates TEMP segments. It is
> well
> > > known that index creations first create the index segments as
> TEMP
> > > segments then 'convert' them to index segments upon completion.
> What
> > > I just found out (thanks to a failed operation) is that 'CREATE
> TABLE
> > > AS SELECT' (ctas) also creates the segments as TEMP first.
> > >
> > >   Dan Fink
> > >
> >
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