ah, but the people working on it have changed.

Gaja Krishna Vaidyanatha
John Beresniewicz
James Morle

to name just a few....


--- "Johnston, Tim" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm not sure I'd go that far...  Old habits (and prejudices) die
> hard...
> 
> :-)
> 
> -----Original Message-----
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> 
> 
> 
> Look for it to improve dramatically.
> 
> I might even try to use it.
> 
> Jared
> 
> On Sunday 17 November 2002 06:13, J. Laurindo Chiappa wrote:
> > Jared, just a thought :  ** WHY **  Oracle experts charged in OEM
> > developmentcan´t do anything close - fast, sweet & simple , just to
> the
> > point ?? Until now, OEM is just a pile of *hit, plain & simple.
> >
> >  Regards,
> >
> >   Chiappa
> >
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> >
> > On 13/11/02 at 05:23 Jared Still wrote:
> > >Check out OraC, written in Perl of course.  :)
> > >
> > >http://www.tux.org/orac-dba/
> > >
> > >Jared
> > >
> > >On Tuesday 12 November 2002 11:13, Jesse, Rich wrote:
> > >> Good grief.  Like I'm going to go through all of that overhead
> and
> > >> hassle? And isn't 9iAS a separately licensable (read: "cost")
> option,
> > >> even if you're already licensed for EE?
> > >>
> > >> I think I'm reading the same PDF you were, Raj:
> > >>
> > >> "The Console interacts with the Oracle Management Service,
> which, as a
> > >> J2EE Web Application hosted by an Oracle9i application Server,
> leverages
> > >> all of the reliability, scalability, and robustness of the
> Oracle9iAS
> > >> instance."
> > >>
> > >> I wish I has time to work on the KISS-method OEM replacement I
> > >> started... <sigh>
> > >>
> > >> Rich
> > >>
> > >> --
> > >> Rich Jesse                           System/Database
> Administrator
> > >> [EMAIL PROTECTED]              Quad/Tech International,
> Sussex,
> WI
> > >> USA
> > >>
> > >> -----Original Message-----
> > >> Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 10:40 AM
> > >> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> New EM4.0 (announced today) has a bunch of new features ... was
> just
> > >> reading the PDF ... but it needs 9iAS ... that is a bummer ...
> more
> info
> > >> on oracle website ...
> > >
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