I am using home grown scripts and they work.  I have Legato use savepnpc (pre/post 
proc) command call this script:

//begin snippet comment section

#!/bin/ksh
#######################################################
# $ORABIN/db_hot_backup.ksh
#######################################################
#
# Common script used to alter one database or all databases
# on this server for hot backup mode (begin/end).
# This script does NOT actually copy database files to disk
# or to tape.
#
# Hot Backup Algorithm listed below:
#       1) Alter system archive log current ;
#       2) Check backup status.
#       3) Generate datafile listing.
#       4) Alter tablespace <tablespace_name> begin backup ;
#       5) Some other process,script,legato,etc. will copy database files
#          to disk or to tape.
#       6) Alter tablespace <tablespace_name> end backup ;
#       7) Alter system archive log current ;
#       8) Backup controlfile.
#       9) Alter system archive log current ;
#
# Date          Author          Note
# ----          ------          ----
# 04/26/02      Gene Sais       Original Creation
# 08/02/02      Gene Sais       Copied trace file to Hot Backup Location
#######################################################
# Parameter             Description
# ---------             -----------
sid=$1                  # Database sid or all
begend=$2               # Begin or End Hot Backup

//end snippet comment section

hth,
Gene

PS. I have tested recoveries and they worked, but soon my scripts will succumb to RMAN 
:).

>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 12/18/02 12:04PM >>>
  I was thinking of simply copying the datafiles using the OS facilities.
If you are putting hot backups to tape directly I am not sure that they will
be usable for recovery.  RMAN requires a third party media manager to handle
backups to tape. If rman can't do it, I am not sure that homegrown scripts
can either.

Ruth
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> Ruth,
>
> Does this mean hot backups don't work for UnixWare 7.1?  Otherwise, cp,
> cpio, ufsdump or any other method of copying the disk file from location a
> to location b should be ok, shouldn't it?
>
> John
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Wednesday, December 18, 2002 8:44 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
>
> Just remember, I you don't have the database shutdown while you back them
up
> the backups will be unusable.
>
> Ruth
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>
>
> > Well for this you can use cpio command in Unix for copying files to
Tape.
> >
> > Another option is using ufsdump commnand .
> >
> > Regards
> > Dilmohan
> >
> > Ashraf Salaymeh wrote:
> >
> > > Dear List,
> > >
> > > We have UnixWare 7.1 and I want to take backup of
> > > Database files (Physical files) to my tape.
> > >
> > > I did use tar command:
> > >
> > > tar c8v1 /home/oradata
> > >
> > > It's working properly but the problem is:
> > >
> > > tar can't handle large files(larger than 2GB).
> > > The total size of the DB files under /home/oradata
> > > more than 2GB.
> > >
> > > So the result I'll get some of those files not all.
> > >
> > > Could any body in the list give me the alternative
> > > command of tar that can handle backup of large files
> > > or any other solution...
> > >
> > > because I want to schedule this process.
> > >
> > > Your help will be appreciated.
> > >
> > > Regards,
> > > ashraf salaymeh
> > > System Analyst(OCP Certified DBA)
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