Ditto.

Conner did a better job of stating
it than I was going to.  :)

Jared

On Monday 30 December 2002 11:08, Connor McDonald wrote:
> The space saving is good if you are not planning on
> doing much more with those indexes (ie dml).  The
> space saving might be very very bad if there is lots
> of dml to come.
>
> If you're indexes reached "equilibrium" during normal
> operation of (say) 70% used, and then you rebuild them
> with (say) pctfree 10, they pop up to 90% used and
> thus the saved space.  But if normal operations
> continue, they will eventually drift out to 70% used
> again and what's worse, you might get a bucketload of
> index block splits during the process...could be a
> nasty hit on dml performance
>
> hth
> connor
>
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> > Jared, thanks for the "asktom" article, very
> > interesting reading - I'm not
> > 100% sure I agree with him though.    I just
> > recently went through the
> > exercise to rebuild our indexes into locally-managed
> > tablespaces and I
> > saved over 100GB of space through the rebuild
> > process - as an example I had
> > a 51GB unique index that went to 30GB after the
> > rebuild (I'm not implying
> > locally-managed had anything to do with the space
> > savings, that was just
> > for reducing/eliminating fragmentation).    The
> > indexes had not been
> > rebuilt in over a year.      Our DSS database is
> > next; I expect to save at
> > least that plus more in space.    Not to discount
> > Tom's arguments but I was
> > very happy with the space savings and depending on
> > your environment that
> > can be very helpful/worthwhile.
> >
> > Just my opinion - guess it depends on your
> > objectives.       This
> > discussion has definitely got me thinking in some
> > different directions
> > which is always a good thing.
> >
> > thanks again,
> >
> > John D.
> > Atlanta, GA
> >
> >
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> >
> >                       "Jared Still"
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> >                       12/26/2002 10:13
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> > Though I have published a script for determining
> > indexes that
> > need to be rebuilt, and then rebuilding them,  I
> > have to say that
> > this is almost never necessary.
> >
> > Why are you rebuilding indexes?  About the only
> > reason for ever
> > doing so is that the BLEVEL >= 5.
> >
> > goto asktom.oracle.com, and do a search on 'index
> > rebuild'.
> >
> > Currently, the third article may be of interest.
> >
> > Jared
> >
> > On Thursday 26 December 2002 12:24, Richard Huntley
> >
> > wrote:
> > > Anyone have any useful scripts for doing this?
> > >
> > > TIA,
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