<putting on a flame retardant suit> As long as they aint skinny, looks are good :)
Obilgatory oracle statement/question: rumor has it by some instructors that RMAN repository is going away and only control file recoveries will be possible, truth or fiction? joe > > very technical, very detailed, and very dedicated. The fact that > > they were both attractive didn't hurt either. One majored in math > > I'm about to start a flame war here, I just know it. > > WHY does it matter to mention the attractiveness of the female DBAs? > When I talk about someone I work with, I don't comment on how > attractive he or she is. I talk about whether or not the person can do > the work and I can learn from him or her. > > It's the subtle things that promote the attitude. > > > --- "Smith, Ron L." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > I have had the pleasure of working with 2 female DBA's at my company. > > I > > have to say they were both the best DBA's the company has had. Both > > were > > very technical, very detailed, and very dedicated. The fact that > > they were > > both attractive didn't hurt either. One majored in mathamatics and > > had a 4 > > point average. But I would not concider her a geek at all. They are > > both > > always willing to go the extra mile when needed and work what ever > > hours are > > required. I probebly wouldn't be here if it weren't for them. It > > would be > > too boring. > > > > R. Smith > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 9:25 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Cherie, Rachel - Thanks for sharing your viewpoint. > > > > Brian - I think you are correct that kids today get very little > > encouragement to study hard subjects like sciences. I find this > > ironic given > > the fact that we have an incredibly technological society. I think > > this is a > > cumulative product of our society. Parents don't always encourage > > their > > children, teachers feel they are talking to an unreceptive audience > > (and > > usually don't have much exposure to technical careers themselves), > > and our > > popular culture ridicules the idea of maturity in general. > > But this is more of a concern for girls as they are making > > decisions > > about their future. The reason is role models. Often just one > > prominent > > member of a profession will encourage many young people to consider > > that > > field. > > Now when a young woman in the computer field is considering > > becoming an > > Oracle DBA, a quick scan of the bookshelves turns up Rachel's name. > > So hear > > that Rachel -- you're a role model, so you must write more books! > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:45 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > Just asking .. I'm told that the number of "Americans" (by which I > > mean kids > > born in the States) entering technical fields of all types is > > declining. > > Could the decline of the number of women in IT entering IT be a part > > of that > > trend? > > > > For that matter, I wasn't really called on much in school (and glad > > for it, > > I wasn't usually paying attention), nor did my teachers encourage me > > that I > > can recall for anything in particular. Yet, here I am, earning a > > living > > doing computer stuff. > > > > If 'girls' (or boys, see para 1) aren't encouraged in technical > > matters, > > perhaps it's a problem beyond the scope of an overworked and > > underpaid > > teachers? Please note, I speak as a father of six and the husband of > > an > > (former) educator. > > > > ~brian > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 7:39 AM > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > I think that within the population of women in IT, the number of > > female > > Oracle DBAs is increasing. However, in general, the number of women > > entering > > IT is decreasing. That is, the number of women who are encouraged to > > become > > DBAs or developers or network admins or sys admins is decreasing. > > > > I've noticed (I have a friend with a 13 year old son and a 16 year > > old > > daughter) that the schools are not encouraging girls to go into > > science or > > math. There have been studies done that show that teachers in those > > fields > > tend to call on the girls in the class less and spend less time > > helping them > > understand the subjects. > > > > My opinion only > > > > Rachel > > > > --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Recently this list had a discussion of female Oracle DBAs. The > > > consensus was that the numbers were increasing, which I view as a > > good > > > thing. Here is an > > > article with industry statistics saying that the number of women in > > > IT is > > > decreasing. > > > http://itmanagement.earthweb.com/career/article.php/1564501 > > > Any theories? > > > > > > Dennis Williams > > > DBA, 40%OCP > > > Lifetouch, Inc. > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > -- > > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > > -- > > > Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > -- > > Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net > > -- > > Author: Brian Dunbar > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com > > San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- - > > To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message > > to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in > > the > > message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name > > of > > mailing list you want to be removed from). 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