April - One thing I've discovered is everyone is frustrated with their ERP, whether it is Oracle Apps, SAP, Peoplesoft, etc. I think the ERP systems are vastly more complex than a "mere" OS, or maybe not so self-contained.
Dennis Williams DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA Lifetouch, Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 6:44 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L OURs keeps telling me what a piece of crap Oracle Apps is, not nice and simple like an OS install or an Office migration.... and WHAT would they need to test what THEY do for... they blanket install everything the same time... it IS after all, only an OS patch..but when apps pukes because no one told anyone about the OS patch, and I have to spend a week playing chase the itar only to find out what they did and "all" it will take to fix it... "Who knew" "Piece of Crap software" grrrrrrrrrrr April Wells Oracle DBA Great spirits have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds -- Albert Einstein -----Original Message----- Sent: Thursday, February 20, 2003 4:59 AM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L I cannot trust my network admins. They do crap without any notification. They will make a change and then I will spend the next day trying to figure out what happened. Their typical response is "Oh, we didn't know that the databases would be affected". DO NOT TRUST NETWORK ADMINS. And from my time working in IS I have found that network admins have no communication skills. These are NT guys. I had better luck with unix network admins though. Go figure. Dave -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 1:50 PM To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L Lyndon, I wish I knew what caused the problem. And I have no idea how the monkey that broke it solved the problem. I think it had something to do with removing folder shares, but I'm not sure. I am so busy whipping out volumes of pl/sql code that I can't stop to understand why. I have to figure out how to smooth over the fact that we lost one day in our already tight schedule that is making it necessary for me to work from home at night (DSL + VPN = FUN! Sometimes.) Cut, Paste, Test, Kill. Lather, rinse, repeat. Wish I could just leave work and "get pissed out of my tree." Mrs. Monkey. -----Original Message----- Sent: Wednesday, February 19, 2003 2:30 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Koivu, Lisa Please tell us what caused the problem and how you solved it. -- Lyndon Tiu Quoting "Koivu, Lisa" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > Hi Wayne, > > Thanks so much for responding. > > I guess my lack of knowledge of Windows 2000 administration has > just bit me in the ass. A description of a paintbrush-style change > applied to our servers by the network support people in another > office is what completely and totally HOSED services on two > development boxes. Of course, a communication went out to a list > of people that *didn't* include me or my boss, or the people who > actually support my servers here in Ft. Lauderdale. > > GRRRRR I screamed at the guy ( what? me? NO! ) and it will not > happen again. > > The really sad part is that I wouldn't know what permissions need > to be where and why. 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