Lisa

You owe it to yourself to spend a few hours per day mulling over the DW
stuff at www.ralphkimball.com. I still learn something every week, and it is
not DB specific. BTW, data architect is not that bad, some would even call
it a promotion. When you travel the world going to customer's sites fixing
up one mess after the next, and see how many DBB's pass themselves off as
DBA's, sometimes you do not want to be called a DBA (at least not at THAT
site), lest you are grouped in the same skill category.

The way to increase your earning power, is to specialize. Ask Mogen, Cary,
Jonathan, Jared or any of the greats on this list and they will all tell you
that. These days, any DBB can point and click. I got my son ( 9 years old)
to install Oracle on his home PC and create a database (of course I was
standing behind him to ensure he did nothing daft).

Cheers:

Ferenc Mantfeld
Dreaming costs you nothing. Not dreaming costs you everything.
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> Lisa, here is a link that you may find useful.  It is geared for data
design and datawarehouse/datamart design.  I have found it useful.
>
> http://www.dmreview.com/
>
> Dave
>
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>
> Lisa,
>  You are correct in your needing a vent or "whining" as you so
> eloquently put it. Corporate policy can and has ruined a great career if
> you are not prepared for the unforseen changes that the bean counters
> produce.
>  Not knowing the knowledge level of your spouse and not wanting to
> start a family feud, Is the best person for the task assigned to the
> proper task? Perhaps there can be a compromise made and you can
> alternate positions periodically to give  both of you additional
> knowledge. That way there would be a win-win situation.(I can't believe
> I used a corporate buzz word, Sorry just my past sneaking out).
>  If the new position can be in fact a complete solution where
> suggestions are accepted and considered then perhaps you can point out
> the pluses of using Oracle for the data-mart. Then you can be in
> complete control from start to finish and keep your Oracle skill set up
> with the market.
>   It is a tough time in the Oracle DBA market place. The published job
> listings have decreased drastically in the past 2 years. There still are
> openings out there but I feel that they are more prominent in the
> "networking" job listings rather than a head hunter or internet job
> search. I know that it would be an inconvenience to start a new job
> search now with the economy in question and the recent family increase,
> but IF you are dissatisfied with the current situation and you have
> thought it out completely and have complete agreement with your spouse,
> then I wish you good fortune and good luck.
> Ron
>
> >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 02/25/03 11:34AM >>>
>
> Hello everyone,
> Well I've been "reassigned".  I was responsible for the completely
> messed up Peoplesoft Oracle/AIX environment but management here decided
> that it was more important to separate a husband and wife that both work
> in the same department, and assigned one of them to be primary support
> in this environment instead of me.  (sshh:  The new person who is
> primary doesn't know a thing about Unix.)  My primary job is now
> suppossed to be data modeling and data warehouse/mart design, moving on
> into Problematica (er, Informatica) development into a Sql Server
> database.  I will not be the admin on the Sql Server database.  My new
> boss referred to this as "database architecture".  ??  What?  They have
> already decided what they want done and just want someone to take the
> pretty pictures and implement them with unrealistic deadlines.
> The main reason why I am upset is because it seems to me that data
> modeling is such a "soft" skill.  I am concerned about keeping my skills
> up to date and keeping my hands in an Oracle environment, whether it's a
> mess or not.  Seems to me that data modeling alone isn't something that
> can land you a new job or really spiff up your resume.  I think that
> having a finite list of skills (Oracle, Unix, Windows 2000, Erwin,
> Project, crap like that) is more what employers search for, and is what
> HR depts can easily deal with.
> Am I wrong?  This job pays well and working for a huge company has it's
> benefits, if you can deal with the bureaucracy similar to what is
> described in the 1st paragraph.  And I know in this market I am just
> lucky to have a job.
> And please tell me if I'm whining.  I may just need a KITA.  Who knows
> anymore...
> Lisa Koivu
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