Ferenc
Thanks for the document. I am working with the SAs to try to implement it.
Will update the results once complete..
Thanks a lot...
Babu
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Agree with Jared. However, if you have determined that the synchronous IO
and all that is slowing you down, and you want to proceed to direct IO, and
Qio is what you want, I would suggest that you get Veritas to help you. It
will take about 1 - 2 hours to set up for a 100 GB DB. I have a document
outlining all the steps I took to do this (as root), I will forward to you
from my other email). You will have to drop and recreate your TEMP
tablespace as outlined in the doc.
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> The failed KAIO calls normally happen very quickly and
> have little impact on your system. I did run into some buggy
> Hitachi/Solaris/Vxfs configuration once that took a very long
> time to fail the KAIO calls.
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> You could always just set disk_asynch_io=false in init.ora.
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> My bad.
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> I should also have posted the 10046 trace. I did a 10046 trace and also a
> STATSPACK report. Of the total time, more than 50% of the time is spent
> waiting on "DIRECT PATH WRITE" and around 40% of the time it waits on
> "DIRECT PATH READ". This is what prompted me to do a truss and see what
it
> is doing..
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> >From one of the Veritas whitepapers - I found this
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> Quick I/O allows databases to access regular files on a VxFS file system
> as
> raw character devices,
> improving throughput for Oracle databases. Unlike raw devices, Quick I/O
> files can still be
> managed as regular UNIX files.
>
> There are three requirements to use Quick I/O:
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> 1. Quick I/O driver (VRTSqio) must be loaded before a regular file can be
> accessed through
> the Quick I/O interface.
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> 2. Files must be preallocated on a VxFS file system.
> The file must be preallocated because the file cannot be extended through
> writes via its Quick
> I/O interface. This preallocation can be done using the qiomkfile
command.
> This
> command ensures that the file is created as a single large extent, or as
a
> chain of direct
> extents. Using direct extents is inherently faster than using indirect
> extents.
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> 3. The file must be accessed via its Quick I/O name extension
> (::cdev:vxfs:).
> In a VxFS file system, a file can be accessed using two types of
> interface:
> regular file and
> device file. The device file interface allows a regular file to be
> accessed
> as a raw character
> device. This is achieved by using the Quick I/O naming extension of
> ::cdev:vxfs:
> while accessing a regular file.
>
> For example, a file named system.dbf can be accessed as a raw character
> device when
> the name system.dbf::cdev:vxfs: is used for database access.
>
> Converting Oracle Database Files on VERITAS File System to use Quick/IO
>
> The scripts getdbfiles.sh and mkqio.sh are provided to easily change
> Oracle
> database
> files to use Quick I/O. The database files must be on VxFS file systems
> before they can be
> converted. The getdbfiles.sh script is a shell script that can be run by
> the Oracle DBA
> (with appropriate user ID) while the database instance is up and running.
> This script extracts the
> filenames from the system tables of the database and stores the filenames
> in a file called
> mkqio.dat.
>
> Alternatively, you can manually create the mkqio.dat file containing the
> Oracle database
> filenames to convert for use with Quick I/O.
>
> The mkqio.sh script processes a list of filenames in the file mkqio.dat
> and
> converts them
> to use Quick I/O. This conversion process should be performed while the
> database is closed. The
> mkqio.sh script must also be run by the Oracle user of the database
> instance to avoid any
> permission problems.
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>
> I think Quick IO is needed on VxFS to perform KAIO calls. Have anyone
done
> this before?
>
> Any input is greatly appreciated.
>
> Babu
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> I wish now that I hadn't deleted what I composed this morning... It was
> this:
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> People probably get sick of seeing me say the same thing over and over
> and over... You have some interesting information from the truss that
> you've done. But you can't tell how long something took by counting how
> many times it happened. The easiest way to determine what's consuming
> the most *time* is to use extended SQL trace (event 10046 level 8). The
> resulting trace file will tell you exactly where your time has gone, and
> it will enable you to determine whether your performance problem is a
> result of the kaio calls or not.
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> You'll probably find that the system is doing what you suspect: issuing
> an async write call, failing, and then calling a synchronous write call.
> However, without knowing the impact of this behavior upon response time,
> it's hard to know whether the time you invest into "checking" stuff and
> "fixing" stuff is worth anything. The worst feeling is to invest your
> time into fixing something, succeeding, and then finding you've made no
> impact because the thing you fixed accounts for only a small amount of
> response time.
>
> ...Find out what activity is consuming the largest chunk of your
> response time, and then try to figure out how to do that thing less. The
> cheapest, fastest, most error-free way that I know to do that is to
> collect the 10046 level-8 data.
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> I did this and its taking the same amount of time. The difference this
> time
> is that it does not do the KAIO call. But the time has not improved. Its
> still doing pwrite calls.
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> TIA
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> Babu
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> > I think it is trying to do a KAIO call and failing. Then it attempts a
> > synchronous PWRITE call.
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> > But our SAs are not able to help us to confirm this. Have any
> > of you seen
> > this issue?
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> I think you have hit the nail on the head. By default, the Oracle port
> on
> Solaris sets 'disk_async_io' to TRUE. Set this to FALSE by introducing
> such
> an entry in init.ora. Let us know if tihis solves your issue...
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