Patrice,
As a Win2K and Linux user, Linux is cheaper on two fronts, 1) at $900 per
site for a Linux Advanced Server license vs. MS$ $1200 plus license (boy I hope
memory is working here) and 2) Yes you can use older, lighter hardware & get the
same or sometimes even better performance than MS. One thing that sorta frosts
me about MicroSoft is that every time they release a new version of their os or
applications you end up having to acquire additional or new hardware. Whoever
coined the phrase Bloatware must have been a MicroSoft employee.
Dick Goulet
Opinions expressed are personal.
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Author: "Boivin; Patrice J" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: 2/28/2003 4:59 AM
www.opensource.org and other sites (The Register) and
www.globetechnology.com (Globe & Mail's technology news site) mentioned that
MS considers LINUX a threat.
Last week I attended an OS security class where each student had two PCs,
one was a Windows2000 machine, one was a LINUX machine. The LINUX machine
came with Gnome, which doesn't look all that bad. I would argue that the
LINUX GUI needs a bit of streamlining but you can see that it has
dramatically improved.
LINUX still has software compatibility problems, the courseware referred to
a LINUX configuration program that (for some unknown reason) wouldn't work
on our LINUX machines.
The LINUX machines seemed to have older hardware, I have the impression that
they were the ones the training center had "replaced and upgraded" to
Windows2000, but now had turned around and were using them for teaching OS
security on LINUX. Speed was comparable.
The irony is that as LINUX becomes more streamlined, vendors start charging
for it... Will there be a meeting in the middle of open source OS and
Windows? If Microsoft has to reduce its prices for Windows, how will it
maintain its revenue growth?
Advanced LINUX is not free either, I don't know how its price compares with
the Windows2000 offering though.
Regards,
Patrice Boivin
Systems Analyst (Oracle Certified DBA)
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As long as I'm not replaced by an open source (cheap) DBA ....
Stephane Paquette
Administrateur de bases de donnees
Database Administrator
Standard Life
www.standardlife.ca
Tel. (514) 925-7187
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I don't believe MS will ever give up. Isn't that part of American
Capitalism? Your competitor does you one better on some test, therefore
you've
got to better them. Give Oracle a couple of weeks and we'll here that one
too.
But seriously, how many of us really care about the TP-C benchmark?
It's
great for marketing and the sales droids but how do I relate that to the
business needs of where I'm working? Great, we can push the database to
400K+
transactions per second, wow. Now if I could just get those 300 testers on
the
floor to take advantage of that when their tests are 5 minutes long!!
Somehow
the capabilities of the server/database combination has gotten SOO big that
it
can't be filled anymore or so the users think when they release the query
from
hell.
BTW: As I look down the road to the future, I wonder how much of the
commercial software industry is going to survive the wave of open source
stuff
coming down the pipe? Here I am, today, sitting at a MS Win2K desktop with
Oracle running on the database server. A couple of years down the road I
can
see a Linux, or some derivative of it, as the desktop and PostgreSql on the
database server. Processing data will still have to happen and relational
data
will still be around, but will MS and Oracle?? Damn good question I'd have
to
say.
/* rant mode off, cool mode on */
Dick Goulet
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Date: 2/27/2003 11:26 AM
For your amusement, MS thinks they can "now" equal Oracle in performance
(wasn't that what they claimed 3 years ago?).
Anyway, I tend to think of these benchmarks like the NASCAR winners. Yeah
I'm going to go by a Chrysler because it won the NASCAR championship.
http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707
<http://www.entmag.com/news/article.asp?EditorialsID=5707>
Dennis Williams
DBA, 40%OCP, 100% DBA
Lifetouch, Inc.
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