Thanks, Dennis. I am with you on your point about GUI
tools...

 --- DENNIS WILLIAMS <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Boris - I think John has an excellent point (as
> always). I just remembered
> that one vendor (can't recall which) has some sort
> of "stealth" method to
> directly sample the SQL buffer. They make a big deal
> about how it doesn't
> impact your system, so I would infer as John says
> that with a large shared
> pool this might be significant.
>    My point is to just collect the information that
> is of value to you. If a
> level 0 gets you everything you need, go with that.
> When I suggest writing
> your own routines, I'm not proposing that you could
> collect all the
> information STATSPACK collects more efficiently, but
> if you only use one or
> two pieces of information and you need a level 5
> snapshot to get it, then
> you might consider a quick script to collect just
> what you need. Also if you
> need frequent snapshots to capture certain critical
> data, you can avoid some
> snapshots.
>    CPU cycles are meant to be used, so if snapshots
> aren't affecting your
> overall system, then what is the problem? Well,
> unfortunately you would like
> to collect statistics when the system is the
> busiest.
>    I find STATSPACK to be the most useful when the
> system appears "hung".
> With the GUI tools you are still clicking screens
> when the problem clears
> itself up. You can take a couple of STATSPACK
> snapshots and do damage
> control on the people side in between. But man are
> those snapshots SLOOOOW
> when the system is about belly up.
> 
> Dennis Williams
> DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> Lifetouch, Inc.
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

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