Hi, I am sorry if I sounded discouraging. That wasnt the idea.
anyway if the idea or point was missed.... I guess it is not anyway worth labouring on it :) Best Regards Cyril On Wed, 28 May 2003 Joan Hsieh wrote : >Cyril, > >we need some encouragements on those who has the experiences and >also >has ocp. As Rafig said, if I don't continue updated my ocp, I >just know >something I have done, limited to my experiences. With ocp, I >know >"WHAT", then I know "HOW" > >Joan > >M Rafiq wrote: > > > > Cyril, > > > > One positive point... > > > > It force you to study all upgrade material and read through >different aspect > > of oracle which we normally not read that thoroughly. It >always helped me to > > do ocp upgrade exam to read more of new features else I was >not reading it. > > however, it is not a replacement of my experience of 15 years >with > > oracle(since ver 4 DOS and ver 5(unix) > > > > Regards > > Rafiq > > > > Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L ><[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Date: Sun, 25 May 2003 19:16:19 -0800 > > > > Hello, > > > > I do hope the ocp 'looks well' on ur resume! > > and 'goes down well' with interviewers ! > > > > I personally think OCP has lost credibility for > > the following reasons > > > > a. People are known to get through using the > > 'jack pot method' (ie close ur eyes and pray and click >the > > option!) > > > > b. People are known to sms the answers!!! > > > > c. Finally everyone in the industry seems to know > > that if not the 1st attempt atleast by the 3rd attempt > > people 'have to get through' > > > > Stuff like the above have made interviewers all over > > wary of "OCP candidates" who mouth a lot of jargon > > without the necessary experience. > > > > This creates a unique problem where a candidate > > is likely to have a 'false sense of confidence' > > just because he 'read something somewhere' > > and this makes it difficult for the interviewer to > > 'imagine the candidate in his team working on workarounds >;)' > > and difficult for the candidate to 'learn' > > > > So the interviewer is likely to take the 'safe option' > > of hiring a guy who has 'genuinely worked 10%' at 10% pay > > rather than hire a guy who has 'genuinely worked 10%' > > done OCP (10i!hahaha) and expects to be paid 100% > > and has airs :( > > > > All the best > > > > Cyril > > > > PS: By the way ....Oracle claims that OCPs get paid more... > > I have not seen such a thing...if 'someone around here' >has > > 'seen such a thing' well....good...:) > > > > IMHO OCP is one good money making idea Oracle >Education > > developed.......why didnt I think of it earlier :( > > > > On Mon, 26 May 2003 DENNIS WILLIAMS wrote : > > >Congratulations! Well, was it as hard as you thought it was >going > > >to be? > > > > > >Dennis Williams > > >DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA > > >Lifetouch, Inc. > > >[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > >Sent: Friday, May 23, 2003 5:37 PM > > >To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L > > > > > > > > >Hello list > > >thanks to you all and with the almighty's blessings i passed >my > > >1ZO-031 9i > > >dba fundamentals 1 today. > > >Thanks for all the help and advice > > >............... > > > > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: >http://www.orafaq.net > > >-- > > >Author: <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > >http://www.fatcity.com > > >San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web >hosting > > >services > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > >message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') >and > > >in > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB >ORACLE-L > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). >You > > >may > > >also send the HELP command for other information (like > > >subscribing). > > >-- > > >Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: >http://www.orafaq.net > > >-- > > >Author: DENNIS WILLIAMS > > > INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > >Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 > > >http://www.fatcity.com > > >San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web >hosting > > >services > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail > > >message > > >to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') >and > > >in > > >the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB >ORACLE-L > > >(or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). >You > > >may > > >also send the HELP command for other information (like > > >subscribing). > > > > > > > ___________________________________________________ > > Impress your clients! 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