Richard,

        Now this is interesting.  When you enter www.mysql.org into your browser you 
get forwarded onto www.mysql.com.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Dick,

That's the commercial version your link points to which provides
additional functionality like InnoDB.  But you can get free MySQL
from www.mysql.org.

Richard

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Richard,

        Oh Contrare, if your using MySql for a commercial purpose then you owe MySql 
AB in Germany $475 US, at last look.  Here's from their web site 
(http://www.mysql.com/products/licensing.html):

MySQL Licensing 

Policy In Brief

This is our licensing policy in brief: Our software is 100% GPL, and if yours is 
also 100% GPL (or OSI compliant), then you never have to pay us for the 
licences. In all other instances, you are better served by our commercial 
licence. Read the details below! Licensing

MySQL software is licensed under the GPL license. The formal terms of the GPL 
license can be found in the GNU General Public License section of the MySQL 
Reference Manual.

MySQL is also available under commercial non-GPL license. For pricing and 
ordering information, see our online store 1. Free use for those who are 100% 
GPL

If your application is licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved by 
MySQL AB, you are free and welcome to ship any GPL software of MySQL AB with 
your application. By "application" we mean any type of software application, 
system, tool or utility. For doing this, you do not need a separate signed 
agreement with MySQL AB, because the GPL text is sufficient. But we do recommend 
you to be in touch with us as there usually are good opportunities for 
partnership and co-marketing. 2. Free use for those who never copy, modify or 
distribute

As long as you never distribute (internally or externally) the MySQL Software in 
any way, you are free to use it for powering your application, irrespective of 
whether your application is under GPL or other OSI approved license or not.

More specifically:

Modifying - You are allowed to modify MySQL Software source code any way you 
like. If you distribute the modified version, all changes, all interface code 
and all code that connects directly or indirectly to the interface code fall 
under GPL.

Copying - You are allowed to copy MySQL binaries and source code, but when you 
do so, the copies will fall under the GPL license. 3. Commercial use for 
everyone else

If your application is not licensed under GPL or compatible OSI license approved 
by MySQL AB and you intend to distribute MySQL software (be that internally or 
externally), you must first obtain a commercial license to the MySQL software in 
question.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Yes, agreed.  But out of all the MySql running out there, how
many of them do you think people purchased support for?  People
run MySql just like Apache because it's free.  And they get most
of the support through internal mailing-list, groups etc.

Richard

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Richard,

        I believe someone else here put the magic phrase on the subject.  Support.  
MySql has a commercial company that you can buy support from, namely MySQL.  
PostGreSql use to have a vendor who would sell you a support contract, Great Bridge 
Software.  Don't know what happen to them.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Glad to see another PostGresql like here.  I always wonder
why is MySql bigger than PostGreSql when it was inferior.
My guess is that it was widely used as Web logging, site logging
as an alternative to file based logging where people don't care
much about transaction 'n such.

Richard Ji

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Jesse,

        In the Open Source world I'm becoming a PostGreSql bigot.  While there are a 
lot of folks out there using MySql I believe they acquired an inferior product.

Dick Goulet
Senior Oracle DBA
Oracle Certified 8i DBA 

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Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 6:00 PM
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I haven't really used either in-depth, but the features of PostrgeSQL
http://advocacy.postgresql.org/advantages/ seem to be a lot closer to
"Enterprise" than MySQL 4.x, IMHO.  Then again, I'm an Oracle bigot -- for
now.  :)

Rich

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ron Rogers [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 2:10 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: MySQL in the future?
> 
> 
> WILL OPEN-SOURCE THREATEN ORACLE, IBM AND MS? | Internet News
> How big of a threat are open-source databases to software giants like
> Oracle, who hold most of the market and revenue share today? MySQL
> could be the biggest challenger to Oracle, and even Microsoft and IBM
> in the database market. MySQL is making inroads as a database
> alternative for small businesses or departmentally inside larger
> enterprises. Ultimately, the groundswell of support for MySQL could
> propel it on a Linux-like course to stardom as companies look to
> reduce TCO for databases. 
> 
> For the full details, click:
> http://www.internetnews.com/ent-news/article.php/2221901 
> 
>  Interesting article.... Is this the wave of the future for the small
> consultant??
> 
>  If the CEO is smart he will start a certification program and release
> upgrades every 18 months. It keeps the revenue comming it.
> Ron
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