David - Well, some people on this list write books, some of us read 'em.
Actually the Reingruber & Gregory book is awesome if you are in the position
of evaluating data models, which happens from time to time with us DBAs.
They analyze darn near all common modeling alternatives and provide great
reasons for not choosing some alternatives. Made me look a lot less dumb in
a pinch. And if the modeler wants to argue you can just state that you are
just providing information so it isn't you against them, but them against
some noted authors.



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Dennis, 

I think you are even more of a book worm than I am.  I agree that the Ralph
Kimball books are great for star schema design.  I will check out the other
book for normalized models.  Thanks for the tip.


Best regards, 

David B. Wagoner 
Database Administrator 
Arsenal Digital Solutions 



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Paula - My impression is that the data architecture arena is now split 
between OLTP (normalized) and DW (star schema), with different mindsets 
accordingly. The best resource for normalized data modeling that I have 
found is: 
The Data Modeling Handbook by Michael C. Reingruber and William W. Gregory 
For Star schema I think Ralph Kimball is the place to start. 



Dennis Williams 
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Interested in data architecture issues beyond a particular RDBMS (sorry guys

just have to be) and I was wondering if anyone had any good resources: 

-listservers 
-conferences (what are the best for a ltd. budget) 
-good books/articles/magazines 

I just received a request about 

"The Next Big Thing Panel was part of the Wilshire Meta-Data Conference and 
DAMA International Symposium - the world's largest and most authoritative 
vendor-neutral data management conference. If you missed this event and 
would like to order the documentation, please visit the conference home 
page." 

Anyone know if this is worth going to?  It looks very interesting. 

Thanks, 
Paula 

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Srinivas 
   It would help if we knew what you were trying to achieve. Is this some 
type of security solution? My guess is that the oracle binary will get 
Oracle started, but maybe it would be simplest if you just tried it. I will 
warn you of one thing. If the oracle binary isn't setuid to root, you get a 
situation where only the Oracle user can execute it. 
Dennis Williams 
DBA 
Lifetouch, Inc. 
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Hello All, 

I am curious to know what are the executables that are 
used when we say startup/shutdown of oracle database 
on Sun box. 

I think it is $ORACLE_HOME/bin/oracle 

are there any other executables/kernel files 
(important) in bin or in anyother areas. 

Can somebody throw somelight ??/ 

Thanks in advance, 
Srinivas 

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