IIRC = if I remember correctly.
Yes, you have just to sit at these courses. They are not really advanced
courses, especially when the instructor doesn't know, what's he talking
about. That's why I put advanced in double quotes. If you want real advanced
courses, go with Data Server Internals or seminars what Jonathan Lewis or
guys at his level provide.

Tanel.

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> this is a stupid question but what does IIRC mean? not familiar with that
> one.
>
> what do you mean by 'pass' courses. every oracle courses i took you just
sit
> and listen to the instructor?
>
> how good are those advanced courses?
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>
>
> > Hi!
> >
> > There was about 25 OCMs before I took the exam in Dec 2002. Now there's
50
> > IIRC.
> >
> > At least then the requirements were:
> > Had to be 9i OCP.
> > Had to pass 2 "advanced" courses, I took Advanced PL/SQL and RAC.
> > Had to pass 2 day practicum. Sh*t, this was hard, but I'm glad about it,
> > that shows OCM actually is worth something.
> > There is a description in OCM website about the tasks. Anyway, when
going,
> > refresh your recovery skills ;)
> >
> > It did cost me about $5000 (from my own pocket). I had to travel to
> Chicago
> > from other side of the globe, because they didn't take tests in Europe
> then
> > (it might be the case now as well). If anyone asks was it worth the
> money -
> > I would have spent the money on other stupidities anyway ;)
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Tanel.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:57 PM
> >
> >
> > > to get OCM you need to
> > >
> > > take 2 advanced classes
> > > then pass an all day comprehensive hands on test right?
> > >
> > > what do they have you do for that test? i heard there are different
> OCMs?
> > btw, how much does it all cost?
> > > >
> > > > From: "Tanel Poder" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Date: 2003/06/25 Wed PM 02:59:58 EDT
> > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Subject: Re: 9i OCP Details
> > > >
> > > > Hi!
> > > >
> > > > If you're getting this OCP to look more appealing to employers, I'd
go
> > with
> > > > 8i first, then upgrade to 9i.
> > > > On resume it looks better, you seem more like old-timer that way ;)
> > > >
> > > > Tanel.
> > > > OCP 8,8i,9i, OCM.
> > > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 8:29 PM
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Senthil
> > > > >    So, if I understand your question correctly, you are asking
> whether
> > you
> > > > > should:
> > > > > 1. Take the 8i exams, then the 9i upgrade exam.
> > > > > 2. Take the 9i exams.
> > > > > This will depend to some extent on your background, whether you
> still
> > work
> > > > > with 8i. Whether you can get your manager to spring for a class or
> > two.
> > > > >
> > > > >    Myself, I started this path over a year ago (slow learner). At
> that
> > > > time
> > > > > since the 9i study materials weren't readily available, and I
still
> > work
> > > > > with 8i a lot, I chose to go the 8i route.
> > > > >    If I were to start today, I think I would just go the 9i route.
I
> > > > expect
> > > > > soon Oracle will announce that in 6 months the 8i path will be
> closed.
> > > > This
> > > > > has already happened with Oracle 8.
> > > > >
> > > > > Dennis Williams
> > > > > DBA, 80%OCP, 100% DBA
> > > > > Lifetouch, Inc.
> > > > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:59 AM
> > > > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi Group,
> > > > >
> > > > > I wanted to do my 9i OCP. I have not taken any of the 8i OCP
exams.
> > > > > To do 9i Exams directly I need to attend module 3 or 4 or New
> features
> > > > > from any of the Oracle Edu Partners.
> > > > > Shall I take 9i New features and go ahead with the 9i exams.
> > > > >
> > > > > Suggestion are appreciated.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > > Senthil.
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