Oh, that could definitely be true.  My impression on that point had
always been that the really bad form was to have all 100+ hosts on your
network hit the public stratum-1 servers, hence the delgation to local
stratum-2s.  But it is definitely better form to never touch the
stratum-1s.  So, if it wasn't proper manners before, Rich has convinced
me: Thou Shalt Not Use Stratum-1 Servers Unless Thou Art Sharing Thy
Stratum-2s

Thanks,
Matt

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On 
> Behalf Of Jesse, Rich
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 4:19 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: RAC time clocks (sysdate)
> 
> 
> Hey Matt!
> 
> I thought that it was a bit of proper manners to avoid 
> hitting the public stratum-1 servers unless you were planning 
> on being a public stratum-2, just to avoid overloading the stratum-1s.
> 
> Thoughts?
> Rich
> 
> Rich Jesse 
> System/Database Administrator 
> 
> Quad/Tech Inc. 
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> -----Original Message-----
> Sent: Thursday, July 10, 2003 3:29 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> Beware, NTP can be a complicated critter to get working in a 
> proper fashion. The best way to configure your NTP is to have 
> one or two local stratum 2 or stratum 3 servers that all of 
> your nodes sync off of (a good choice for these servers are 
> servers that do other low-load internal services like mail 
> relay or DNS).  Those servers should each be configured with 
> two unique stratum 1 or 2 servers and then set up to peer off 
> of each other.  Then, point your database servers at your 
> stratum 2 servers.  If your servers are too far out of sync 
> with the rest of the world, NTP won't change the clocks 
> instantaneously, but will gradually "drift" your clocks into 
> sync.  If you want to rush the process, stop the ntpd 
> process, use ntpdate to set the clock one time, and then 
> restart ntp.  The drift should be small enough that will 
> immediately maintain synchronization.
>  
> The above config is a little bit over-engineered if you only 
> have a few hosts, but if you don't already have a global time 
> management system configured, now is the time (no pun 
> intended) to do it - its one of those things that should be 
> required for any infrastructure.  Properly synchronized time 
> makes things like auditing, monitoring, and general sanity an 
> order of magnitude easier.  The above system will easily 
> scale to up to a few hundred hosts and basically insures that 
> the time will be consistent across the infrastructure as a 
> whole.  The other nice thing about NTP is that its an 
> interesting protocol, for those who care about such things, 
> since it actually makes a distinct effort to take network 
> latency and so-such into consideration when setting the time.
>  
> Thanks,
> Matt
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