I was reading the available papers (& old messages in the Forum, too) about this topic , and the following issues arise :
Jdeveloper : the strong point in Forms always has been the RAD approach : without ** any ** PL/SQL or SQL knowledge, one person can build in minutes a real-working program capable of Insert, Update & Delete information in a database table. And the best, automagically this generated program WILL use the best options for performance, like ARRAY PROCESSING , BINDING vars, (in multiline blocks), no REPARSE - the last two are FREE with PL/SQL. So, the questions : the JDev wizard to generate a program IS comparable in the current version of Jdev with the Forms one ? The generated program IS totally ready to use, or no ? And about the performance of the generated program, how "smart" is the wizard ? The main point here is , Java is a generic (non Oracle-centric) language, SO to receive the same beneficts above cited (array proc, binds, fewer parses) the program MUST be coded according some rules (only prepared statements, no missing open/close, no uppercase/lowercase diffs in SQLs, etc, etc), OR - better option - the Java program must call PL/SQLs packages. Are current JDev doing it ? And about the future, are Jdev people inside Oracle thinking about this practical issues ?? Forms 9: the main question in my haed about it comes from the mig paper, it says : "No business logic is executed on the client; it is responsible for rendering the screen. All logic is processed on the application tier." See, commonly "application tier" intends "another machine", so the network traffic between machines MUST increase by a large factor, IMO : in special I think about whn-validate-xx triggers - in C/S apps MANY user-enterable fields responds to/critiques user actions IMMEDIATLY after the user attempts to exit from the field, this behavior is normally DEMANDED by users, in my experience. In this situations, HOW Forms 9 will respond to it ? Forms have ANY kind of optimization to this kind of traffic ? And to current Forms 9 users : in the common-garden Ethernet-100 (no Gigabit) local network, HOW has been the experience ? Too much net perf problems ? Regards, Chiappa __________________________________________________________________________ Acabe com aquelas janelinhas que pulam na sua tela. AntiPop-up UOL - É grátis! http://antipopup.uol.com.br/ -- Please see the official ORACLE-L FAQ: http://www.orafaq.net -- Author: jchiappa INET: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fat City Network Services -- 858-538-5051 http://www.fatcity.com San Diego, California -- Mailing list and web hosting services --------------------------------------------------------------------- To REMOVE yourself from this mailing list, send an E-Mail message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (note EXACT spelling of 'ListGuru') and in the message BODY, include a line containing: UNSUB ORACLE-L (or the name of mailing list you want to be removed from). You may also send the HELP command for other information (like subscribing).