Stephen

I agree with your comments re scalability vs fault tolerance.
Actually the configuration I am looking at is 16 CPUS. So it
is either one domain (vertical) of 16 CPUS or 
4 nodes of 4 CPUs each or
2 nodes of 8 CPUS each.

And on top of this I have to cater for a Standby environment as well.
The standby will definitely not be a big box like an E12K but maybe (if 
talking SUN) say V880 or 4800 . 

tony

At 06:54 AM 05/08/2003 -0800, you wrote:


>I think the point of RAC is fault tolerance, not scalability.  If it's
>performance you want then you want a bigger box, not more boxes.  8 CPUs is
>not big.  You sure don't need the expensive hardware if all you want to run
>is 8 CPUs.  It would be better to go with a smaller frame and use the money
>you save to get more CPUs and additional I/O capacity.  For example, instead
>of E12K with 8 CPUs, get 4810 with 12 CPUs -- unless you have definite plans
>to push the E12K out to its limits in the future.  Don't forget to consider
>the backup requirements of a 5 - 10 TByte database.  Another consideration,
>I think, is that those big, fancy boxes require additional sys admin skills.
>
>-----Original Message-----
>Hi All
>
>I would like to ask for your thoughts on whether to RAC or just go vertical
>(more cpu)
>
>Background
>
>Txn - OLTP like txn during day but batch extracts at night and 
>        very big batch extract periodically
>Data Volume - 5-10 TByte
>Data volatility - 99 % of data is very much like a ware house (unchanged)
>                other 1% is read/update/delete/insert
>
>Options
>1.  Say a very large server like a HP Superdome or SUN E12000
>        with 8 CPUs
>        Server already exist so cost is in obtaining additional CPU/Blades
>        ie Traditional Server using plain old vanilla Oracle EE
>        - can still increase head room.  
>        - batch programs can utilise all 8 CPUs
>        - storage system need not cater for clustering
>
>2,  Same large server like a HP Superdome or SUN E12000 but partitioned
>        into two. Each with 4 CPU.
>        Oracle RDBMS + RAC option
>        - storage server need to cater for cluster config
>        - max performance for batch is with 4 CPUs only
>
>
>Which would you prefer and why.  I am not convinced with the RAC option.
>Now
>if I was going with cheaper Intel servers like Dell servers with 4 CPUS
>each, and
>purchase say 4 nodes of 4 cpus each, that would be a different story.  In
>this case
>I have the equipment and ability to grow vertically.
>
>ta
>tony
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