I see you have found the answer yourself after I send out my
e-mail. :)  Note, there were inaccurate statistics about
"opened cursors current" in some releases (sorry I forgot
which 8i release it was) when PQ is in use.

Richard

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Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 5:40 PM
To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L


I should have known to check Steve's site first (is he still lurking around
here?).

One thing I noticed is that one of the cursors listed in V$OPEN_CURSOR is an
INSERT into AUD$.  This would account for the discrepancy and could match
the description you provided.

So, in summary, the true number of open cursors is correct in V$SESSTAT and
is *not necessarily* the count of rows in the corresponding V$OPEN_CURSOR
view.

And my apologies to the sticklers of the list who have noticed my
"V$SESSSTAT" and "V$OPEN_CURSORS"...  <sigh>

Rich

Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
[EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Tanel Poder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 4:20 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: Re: V$SESSSTAT stat 3 vs V$OPEN_CURSOR
> 
> 
> Hi!
> 
> This is troubleshooting, not performance tuning ;)
> As far as Ixora states, v$sesstat "opened cursors current" 
> shows PL/SQL
> cached cursors as well, even when they are explicitly closed 
> (assuming that
> session_cached_cursors is set).
> But v$open_cursor doesn't show the number of cursor 
> structures in UGA, but
> it shows you (some kind of count) of parse locks which get 
> created in SGA
> for a SQL statement or PL/SQL block.
> They provide a link from schema objects to shared SQL area, 
> so the cursors
> can be invalidated when doing DDL on referenced objects. They 
> are called
> breakable parse locks in Concepts Manual. As the name says 
> "breakable" -
> even though you got a lock on schema object, you still can 
> alter it, the
> lock is just "broken", the cursor is invalidated (but remains 
> cached in UGA)
> and has to be reloaded on next execution. Here we can have a 
> situation, when
> as result of DDL, we don't have any breakable parse locks on 
> SGA anymore,
> but we still have open cursors in UGA. Thus the difference 
> between v$sesstat
> and v$open_cursor.
> 
> (this story is based on Concepts manual and Ixora)
> 
> But for ORA-1000 errors, you should maybe set event for 
> ORA-1000 and dump
> errorstack. Or sample v$sesstat quite often (once per few 
> seconds), to catch
> the point where number of open cursors jumps to ceiling (as I 
> understand,
> it's fairly low normally).
> 
> And for TAR's - I recommend you to do few Oracle Applications 
> upgrades,
> especially to fresh versions of major new releases, such 
> 11.5.1 or 2, then
> you start even seeing severity 1 TARs in your dreams ;)
> 
> Tanel.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> To: "Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2003 11:14 PM
> 
> 
> > No takers on this from the perf tuning gurus?  Please don't 
> make me open a
> > TAR.  Think of the children...
> >
> > Rich
> >
> > Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Jesse, Rich
> > > Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 3:39 PM
> > > To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> > > Subject: V$SESSSTAT stat 3 vs V$OPEN_CURSOR
> > >
> > >
> > > Hey all,
> > >
> > > We recently had a problem with a 3rd-party app getting
> > > "ORA-1000 max open
> > > cursors exceeded" on their 8.1.7.4 DB.  Since OPEN_CURSORS is
> > > set to 500 in
> > > the init.ora -- should be more than generous for a tiny app
> > > on a tiny DB --
> > > we started looking into how many cursors the app actually has
> > > open at any
> > > given time.
> > >
> > > While investigating this, I see that the number of rows in
> > > V$OPEN_CURSORS
> > > isn't consistent with the value of stat 3 ("opened cursors
> > > current") of
> > > V$SESSSTAT.  Of the two processes I looked at, each had a
> > > V$SESSSTAT value
> > > of "3" for stat 3, while the first had a single entry in
> > > V$OPEN_CURSOR and
> > > the second had four.
> > >
> > > Should these values match?  I looked on Metalink but was
> > > unable to find any
> > > reference to the relationship between these, other than a
> > > forum article
> > > where the OraSupport person was extraordinarily unhelpful.
> > >
> > > TIA,
> > > Rich
> > >
> > > Rich Jesse                           System/Database Administrator
> > > [EMAIL PROTECTED]                  Quad/Tech Inc, Sussex, WI USA
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