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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mladen Gogala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 11:49 AM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> Subject: RE: 9i - Dynamic SGA - SGA_MAX_SIZE
> 
> 
> To continue down the Stephen's path, "shutdown abort" will 
> complete very
> quickly
> and will drastically decrease the size of SGA. What is more, 
> the "very busy
> environment"
> Will not be very busy any more. Perhaps very loud, but not very busy.
> 
> --
> Mladen Gogala
> Oracle DBA 
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> Kirtikumar Deshpande
> Sent: Tuesday, August 05, 2003 12:35 PM
> To: Multiple recipients of list ORACLE-L
> 
> 
> U R Welcome.
> Although, reducing SGA size is technically possible, it can be a very
> expensive operation in a busy environemt and can take a long time to
> complete. I have not run any specific tests to see how long 
> it takes to
> reduce SGA by a certain amount, but you can imagine what must 
> be done (find
> least used blocks/age out blocks, keep them from re-use, and finally
> 'detach' them etc..) 
> 
> - Kirti  
> 
> --- Mohammed Shakir <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Kirti
> > 
> > Thanks for the info.
> > 
> > I could not raise dynamically the size of db_cache_size and did not 
> > know why, until I noticed the new parameter sga_max_size. Anyway, I 
> > tried to lower the size of db_cache_size dynamically and I did not 
> > have a problem. So sgma_max_size does play its role in 
> > db_cache_sizing.
> > 
> > I have not tested where I increase the size of sga_max_size using 
> > init.ora and then try to increase the size of db_cache_size 
> > dynamically by the same size as the increase in 
> sga_max_size. That is 
> > the test for coming weekend.
> > 
> > 
> > --- Kirtikumar Deshpande <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > SGA_MAX_SIZE was introduced in 9i to allow dynamic sizing of SGA 
> > > (Dynamic Sizing feature) components such as, shared pool, large 
> > > pool, buffer cache etc. In versions up to 8i, such changes
> > > required bouncing the instance. 
> > > This parameter assumes the value of the SGA at instance startup.
> > > Various components of the SGA can
> > > then be increased/reduced as and when needed. The total SGA, thus,
> > > can reach a maximum value set
> > > by SGA_MAX_SIZE (if set in the init.ora file). That's the idea.
> > > However, the implementation is
> > > different on various platforms. With ISM, and DISM, on 
> Solaris, there
> > > are other issues when it
> > > comes to using Dynamic SGA. You may want to search Metalink for
> > > specific notes/articles for
> > > Solaris. 
> > > On AIX 5L as I found out, Oracle uses SGA_MAX_SIZE, if set in
> > > init.ora, at the instanace startup,
> > > and allocates the excess (difference in computed SGA value and set
> > > SGA_MAX_SIZE) to 'variable
> > > size'. Hence there is no room for any dynamic sizing 
> (upward) of any
> > > SGA component. I did not try
> > > to downsize shared pool first, and 'upsize' buffer cache 
> later. May
> > > be that would work, but that
> > > is not the intention of using this parameter. 
> > > 
> > > PGA_AGRREGATE_TARGET is completely different from this 
> parameter. It 
> > > sets an instance-wide upper limit for the memory used by sorting, 
> > > hashing processes.
> > > 
> > > Hope this helps..
> > > 
> > > - Kirti
> > >  
> > > 
> 
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