You should use "identified globally" when creating users. That will consult
the authentication services
and will change password in Kerberos or Novell directly.

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Yechiel Adar
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 5:59 AM
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I am in the middle of implementing Oracle Advance Security. Finished the
initial testing and on the way to implement a test case. On the way I found
out that you need Oracle Advance Security for this.

There is a problem that you need to address: How you synchronize the
passwords when user change his password? Say David get to work in the
morning and his password expired and he change it. Now a DBA must change the
password in OID to allow him to logon with the new password. That's means
that the DBA know al the passwords of all the users. BIG security breach.
Also a lot of work for the DBA or the security administrator.

We use Novell now and there is a product that do the work.
It will send to OID the new password and also add or delete users as changes
are applied in Novell.

You still have to give permissions, via global rules, to the users so that
adding a user does NOT let him access Oracle.

Yechiel Adar
Mehish
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> Is there any way to get Oracle 8i (or 9i; we're planning to upgrade) 
> Enterprise Edition to authenticate against Active Directory, short of 
> buying Oracle Advanced Security?
>
> My goal is to remove the need to maintain a separate database of 
> passwords. Ideally, we could do also do away with having the database 
> users enter passwords by handling Kerberos tickets, but I'd be happy 
> with them just entering the same password they enter to login to 
> Windows. And if we still need to manually add/remove users, that's 
> okay, too. (We'd probably want to, anyway; not everyone in the domain 
> should have an Oracle account.)
>
> In my fantasy world, authentication would all be done through a 
> function that I could modify. Then I could just create my users with 
> something
like:
>
>      create user "DOMAIN\USER" identified externally;
>
> as you would for OS$ authentication and then do something vaguely 
> like:
>
>      create or replace function system.my_authenticate_user (
>          p_username      in varchar,
>          p_password      in varchar
>      ) return boolean as
>
>          v_usertype      varchar2(30);
>          v_session       dbms_ldap.session;
>
>      begin
>          select    authtype
>          from      dba_users
>          where     username = p_username;
>
>          if authtype = 'EXTERNAL' then
>              v_session := dbms_ldap.init('my-domain-controller', 389);
>              return dbms_ldap.simple_bind_s(v_session, p_username,
>                                             p_password);
>          end if;
>
>          return standard_authenticate_user(p_username, p_password);
>
>      exception
>      when no_data_found
>          return false;
>      end;
>      /
>      show errors
>
> but I'm not aware of any such hook. There are logon triggers, but just 
> of the after type, not "instead of". ("create trigger ... after logon 
> on database" or something, for audit trails, I think.)
>
> Does anything like this exist? Or is there another way, however
convoluted?
>
> Thanks,
> Scott Lamb
>
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